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Last Days Deception Of The New Apostolic Reformation
Part 3 - Using Patriotism and Biblical Citizenship Classes To Infiltrate The Church

Part 1 Separating Truth From Falsehoods: Spiritual Gifts And The NAR
Part 2 NAR Infiltration Into The Culture And The Church

January 16, 2024

(Edited for correction on March 6, 2024 - Information on an Alexander Smyth who wrote a book titled "The Occult Teachings of Jesus of Nazareth" was removed, as that Alexander Smyth who is also referred to sometimes as "Smyth(e), is not the same Alexander Smyth that was a friend of Jefferson.  The time they lived overlapped some, and they were both heretical, but further research showed they were different persons.  In place is information on a heretical commentary that Alexander Smyth wrote on the book of Revelation)

by Greg DesVoignes

Jesus to Pilate
36 Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world. If My kingdom were of this world, My servants would fight, so that I should not be delivered to the Jews; but now My kingdom is not from here.”  John 18:36

Pilate to the Jews
39 “But you have a custom that I should release someone to you at the Passover. Do you therefore want me to release to you the King of the Jews?” 40 Then they all cried again, saying, “Not this Man, but Barabbas!” Now Barabbas was a robber  John 18:39-40

Jesus' prayer to God for his disciples
14 I have given them Your word; and the world has hated them because they are not of the world, just as I am not of the world. 15 I do not pray that You should take them out of the world, but that You should keep them from the evil one. 16 They are not of the world, just as I am not of the world. 17 Sanctify them by Your truth. Your word is truth. 18 As You sent Me into the world, I also have sent them into the world. 19 And for their sakes I sanctify Myself, that they also may be sanctified by the truth."  John 17:14-19

Paul said

17 Brethren, join in following my example, and note those who so walk, as you have us for a pattern. 18 For many walk, of whom I have told you often, and now tell you even weeping, that they are the enemies of the cross of Christ: 19 whose end is destruction, whose god is their belly, and whose glory is in their shame—who set their mind on earthly things. 20 For our citizenship is in heaven, from which we also eagerly wait for the Savior, the Lord Jesus Christ".  Philippians 3:17-20

11 Beloved, I beg you as sojourners and pilgrims, abstain from fleshly lusts which war against the soul, 12 having your conduct honorable among the Gentiles, that when they speak against you as evildoers, they may, by your good works which they observe, glorify God in the day of visitation.".  1 Peter 2:11-12

Evil Governments and Societies: Then and Now

The Government / Society At The Time Of Jesus

The above verses containing the words of Jesus and the Apostles, were written in a time that the Jews were under the yoke of the evil Roman Empire.  It would be the last world empire that they would be under as a nation.  However, they wanted then so desperately to be free from it.  When Jesus showed up in accordance with the prophecies and showed these Jews his great power, many, except the religious leaders, wanted to anoint him as their King.  They believed that he would be this delivering Messiah at that time, even though He said he would not be... until a later time.  Jesus told them what his purpose was for that (Luke 4), and this time, right at the beginning of His ministry: It was to preach His gospel of salvation.  He did this when he first spoke in the temple and opened up the scroll of Isaiah to what we know as Isaiah 61.  He quoted part of the multi-stage prophecy of His coming by saying,

“The Spirit of the Lord God is upon Me,
Because the Lord has anointed Me
To preach good tidings to the poor;
He has sent Me to heal the brokenhearted,
To proclaim liberty to the captives,
And the opening of the prison to those who are bound;
To proclaim the acceptable year of the Lord,.....  Isaiah 61:1-part of 2, as quoted by Jesus in Luke 4:17-19

Jesus stopped there, on purpose, to show his mission for that time.  The next phase as seen in the rest of verse two, will be "And the day of vengeance of our God" and that which follows culminating to His reign on earth.  But this declaration in the rest of the prophecy was not for then.  For as he told them in Luke 4,

"20 Then He closed the book, and gave it back to the attendant and sat down. And the eyes of all who were in the synagogue were fixed on Him. 21 And He began to say to them, Today this Scripture is fulfilled in your hearing.  Luke 4:20-21

They were told, but chose not to remember or accept this.

But as Jesus told Pilate when he asked Jesus if he was King of the Jews, he said that his Kingdom was not of this world.  He had offered the Jews this heavenly Kingdom but they rejected it in favor of a King on earth who would deliver them now.  So they rejected freeing Jesus in favor of releasing Barabbas.  Now John 18:40 uses the word to describe Barabbas as a "robber", a thief.  Mark 15:7 expounds and says he was a murderer in a previous rebellion attempt against Rome.

But... because they rejected Jesus at that time, Jesus told them there would be a time when they would receive a different "messaiah": not one who comes in the name of God, but one who will come in his own name and deceive Israel and the whole world; the anti-Christ.  Jesus said,

43 I have come in My Father’s name, and you do not receive Me; if another comes in his own name, him you will receive John 5:43

This is a prophetical declaration of Jesus and it is.... going to happen!

So, the Jews chose a revolutionary who was part of an attempt to rid Israel of the evil Roman government because the utopian kingdom on earth they wanted Jesus to make then, was not to be at that time.  As Jesus told Pilate, "My Kingdom is not of this world", and "My Kingdom is not from here"

So, because they rejected Him, Jesus then goes and offers his salvation to the Gentiles through the Apostles. It began after his resurrection in what is called "Pentecost"; the outpouring of the Holy Spirit with which the Church began.  This was to be a new "branch" grafted into God's vine, God's Kingdom; not a replacement of the Jews.  Jesus said these (His followers), like him, are also not of this world, just like He is not. But His followers (true believers today too) are of a Kingdom elsewhere.  Paul and Peter confirm this by plainly stating, "our citizenship is in heaven" and, we are "sojourners and pilgrims"

Many in the NAR misuse this verse to mean we exist in both realms and thus, can go back and forth between them.  I will show this later.

Israel Returns As A Nation

In speaking of the signs of the last days, which describe today concerning Israel becoming a nation again, Jesus said

34 Assuredly, I say to you, this generation will by no means pass away till all these things take place. 35 Heaven and earth will pass away, but My words will by no means pass away"  Matthew 24:34

In other words, this last generation that sees Israel become a nation (happened in 1948), will pass away; but not until after all the things of his prophecy come about.  Then Jesus notes that heaven and earth will pass away.  So we must ask, why are the people of the NAR attempting to create a Kingdom on earth like the early Jews wanted, after He told us, His Kingdom is not of this earth, nor are his followers?

Jesus told us there would be a time he would return and that HE, not man, will set up His Kingdom.  But, it would be at the end of the Tribulation Period.  To confirm that it would not be set up by any agency of man can be seen in the prophecy of the last world Kingdom below.

 42 And as the toes of the feet were partly of iron and partly of clay, so the kingdom shall be partly strong and partly fragile. 43 As you saw iron mixed with ceramic clay, they will mingle with the seed of men; but they will not adhere to one another, just as iron does not mix with clay.

44 And in the days of these kings the God of heaven will set up a kingdom which shall never be destroyed; and the kingdom shall not be left to other people; it shall break in pieces and consume all these kingdoms, and it shall stand forever.    Daniel 2:42-44

So, it is clear that when Jesus comes back at the end of the Tribulation, the Kingdom He will set up will destroy all the other kingdoms that exist on earth.  So it does not appear that there will be any ruling kingdom already set up and ready for him, but as we will see, set up for the coming New Age anti-Christ.

The Government / Society Now

As seen above, the book of Daniel by the dream of Nebuchadnezzar concerning the statue of the four world empires, tells us that the last empire will consist of a remnant of the old Roman Empire as seen in the ten toes of this statue which are part iron (old Rome). To be sure, we see the ten toes forming to create the one world government.  And also to be sure, the government of the United States with its current administration is probably the most outwardly evil, demonic, and tyrannical government administration that has ever existed in this country.  This current apostate government makes no secret of it's allegiance to the ideology of the globalist and Satanic agendas.

They put yokes on the population with their agendas of climate change, wanting the forcing of electric power instead of gas for cars, lawn equipment, cooking ranges.  They stopped the drilling for oil in order to be dependent vassals of evil ran dictatorships.  This caused the price of gas and other things to go up making life more difficult for many.  And that's how they want it.

To be able to do this, they have been systematically trying to reduce this country's ability to function in the freedom's and security it once had.  They tell lies on a daily basis, know they are lying, know many know they are lying; but stay on that course anyway.  They love, promote, and make sure the borders are open to whatever comes across to the detriment of this country.  This is one aspect of the New Age Movement plan.  It is a return to Nimrod's tower of Babel, a one world system that God broke up, but man is trying to bring back in rebellion.

They violate their own oaths to protect this country and assume the position of tyrannical adversaries to the people instead of a blessing as God mandated governments to be.

They violate the Constitution, know they do, but continue to do so all the time and at all levels.  We have three branches of government (Executive, Judicial, Legislative) that were set up in the Constitution to balance and counter one if it became corrupt like especially the Executive side is today.  But the Legislative branch has it's own corruption issues as many of them on the Right are silently part of the Left agenda.  The Left just follows the Executive and it's evil ways, while the Right complains about the Executive side and the Left of the Legislative.   However with so many corrupt on the Right, no actions have been taken to stop the actual tyranny for the last three years.  It has been allowed to fester and destroy while just a lot of noise is being made to make it appear something might be done.

These believe they are untouchable because of their political (Satanic with some) power.  But they do not know the God who created all things and that with God, they are not untouchable.  God knows their very thoughts and will bring about their outcome according to them and their deeds of forming this last World government; even though God is allowing it as He did Babylon in judging Israel.  This is a key point; God is allowing it.  Below is part of the reason.

It is not just the federal government, but the governments of many states; governors, legislators, mayors, judges, prosecutors, school boards and so on.

They love abortion, homosexuality, Transgenderism, Critical Race Theory, Anti-Semitism, and all the things evil things God said he would judge an apostate country and individual people for.  These are teaching our children to love and adhere to these evil things at every educational level.  We even have individual government officials of many states that, in defiance of the Constitution, have taken a Presidential candidate (Trump) off of their State voting ballots to prevent anyone from voting for him based on saying He is an "Insurrectionist".  Yet he was never even charged with it.  Their foundation is a lie of their own corruption.  Do not these people know that this is actually currently happing in Russia?  It is a Communist ploy.  They are so afraid of Trump being elected, they think they can decide an election, not the people.

These, as the Word said, "are seared in their conscience", so they even believe their own lies.   These are not of the faith, but never were, or departed from it to following demons.  Paul said,

speaking lies in hypocrisy, having their own conscience seared with a hot iron 1 Timothy 4:1-2

So in a sense, we, like the Jews in the time of Jesus, are under a government that is moving toward how it was in that ancient time.  And not just the United States, but, the whole world. 

 

One Solution Is Also Part of the Problem

But, one aspect of the "Church" is part of the problem: The ideology of the NAR's use of "Patriotism" is to bring people into accepting their desire to not just influence, but to control every aspect of the culture to create a moral society, but not necessarily a Godly society of truly born again believers.  These think that this forcing of a moral society, first in the United States, then in the world, will destroy the evil this apostate society, and usher in the coming of their Messiah.  Unfortunately, it is a different Messiah, a different Jesus than the one in the Bible.

And perhaps those in the NAR have not taken into consideration that God is allowing all these things to happen because this country's government and most of it's population have turned their back's on God.  After all, C. Peter Wagner did not believe in any Rapture of the Church, but did believe in a giant revival to be facilitated by his Apostles and Prophets.  But it is a moral society these are wanting, a Utopia of their own doing; just like Thomas Jefferson wanted as we will see.

The NAR's Solution

In warning to Timothy of the end times, Paul told him,

"I charge you therefore before God and the Lord Jesus Christ, who will judge the living and the dead at His appearing and His kingdom: Preach the word! Be ready in season and out of season. Convince, rebuke, exhort, with all longsuffering and teaching. 

For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine, but according to their own desires, because they have itching ears, they will heap up for themselves teachers; and they will turn their ears away from the truth, and be turned aside to fables".  2 Timothy 4:1-4

These verses provide the perfect example of what is going on today with the false teachers / apostles and prophets of the NAR.  I will explain;

As a people who love the benefits of living in what was once a free nation, we want to be patriots who desire to hold on to those benefits and freedoms as provided by our Constitution.  This is contrary to this current very unpatriotic government.  It is a Patriotism and freedom against the current Administration which has no patriotism to the United States, nor to it's citizens, but has been systematically destroying it.  And true Patriotism is most desirable.  And those who are patriotic want to hear messages of hope that might fulfill these desires.  We all do.

As such, many, many people, in many many churches have, as we will see, have, "heaped up" teachers that do tickle our ears with things we want to hear; such as a hope to return the nation's freedoms and put down the evils the current Administration has facilitated.  Because of this, these false prophets and apostles of the NAR (the heaped up teachers) are turning away many numbers of people and churches from the truth in the Word, and, as we will see, turning people aside to fables.  One of these fables concerns the government founding of this nation as a Christian nation, as part of their agenda.  Another is that the Constitution is a Biblical document.

So the NAR is seductively using patriotism along with an "experiential" church in the form of signs and wonders, and false spiritual gifts and powers, as another bait to lure people into following their precept of creating their Kingdom of God on earth to make it ready for His return.   As part of this patriotic solution, they rely on two of their beliefs that are the foundations of their arguments to join in with them.  These beliefs again, are that; (1)  The founding Fathers of the United States were "Christian", thus this nation was founded upon Christianity, (2) That the Constitution of the United States is a "divinely inspired" Biblical document.  Are these things true?  We will look at both of them later.  There is a lot of "pride" that comes along with this.

Two of the forerunners of these beliefs have started what are called "Biblical Citizenship Classes" that are being primarily taught to churches and other activist groups.  After reading what Jesus and the Apostles said about Christians not being citizens of this world, but of a Kingdom of Jesus that is in heaven, you may think that these classes would teach on this Biblical Kingdom principle.  But it is not the case.  It has to do with people being taught the principles of the Constitution so they will know their rights as a citizen of the United States.  Why?  So the people can stand up to the violations of the Constitution that have multiplied under the present government; federal and local.  We will look at this concept later too.

But again, making use of pictures, I will show that this use of "Patriotism" is prideful and deeply associated with the leaders of the NAR and their associate Apostles and Prophets, and that it is just another ideology along with the "experiential" to bring people in to it.  So let's begin to connect some dots and see what is revealed and where they lead.

Kenneth Copeland - Kenneth Copeland Ministries, Flashpoint

Going back to what I showed in Part 2, Kenneth Copeland is one of these beach heads of this Patriot Movement.  As we saw in Part 2, Copeland has a video ministry called "Flashpoint".  As part of that he has another he calls "The Flashpoint Army".  Many of those associated with "Flashpoint" are also part of this "Flashpoint Army" as well as others as we will see.  This "army" with its giant web of associates leads back to Copeland and the NAR and more.

In association with this Flashpoint Army, Copeland had what he calls, the "Truth and Freedom Tour".  It was recently put on in different cities.  Below is a picture from Flashpoint's webpage that shows who the speakers are on the panel for this tour.  Those with the red boxes around them are of interest.  Who they are, and what of the Seven Mountains they represent are on the right side.  Note again, Rick Green and Rob McCoy again have a direct connection to Kenneth Copeland's ministries and this patriotic tour.

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Kenneth Copeland -  Flashpoint "Truth and Freedom Tour"
truth and freedom panel

So the list of panelist of interest that are associated with Copeland and his false Apostles and Prophets include, the Entertainment "mountain" with actor, Jim Calviezel who played Tim Ballard in "The Sound of Freedom", and Tim Ballard himself of DSHS- Operation Underground Railroad, and singer Danny Gokey. Then we have businessman and Trump associate Mink Lindell, the "My Pillow" guy. Of course there is Rick Green of the Patriot Academy, and Calvary Chapel Pastor Rob McCoy who is also in business with Charlie Kirk of TurningPoint USA.  The rest are Copeland's team; Dutch Sheets, Gene Bailey, Lance Wallnau, and Hank Kunneman.  A rather revealing association of diverse peoples.

But again we see the other NAR key leader, Che Ahn, also involved in Copeland's Flashpoint Army as seen in the photo below.

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Che Ahn on a Flashpoint Army Video 

The photo below shows some of the more ecumenical side of the NAR for the sake of "unity" to combat the evils in government and the other Seven Mountains;  that is Glenn Beck who is a member of the LDS Church.  This photo is a screen shot of a video of Beck speaking at TurningPoint USA's "America Fest" event.  He is a key player in many NAR events.

glenn beck flashpoint america fest 
 

Copeland's Flashpoint Army of "Patriots" comes with what they call a "Watchman Decree" and a list of "Declarations" that these "Watchmen" make.  In truth, the actual "Watchmen" were the Old Testament prophets of whom the NAR believes they are like them in their "new" created Pentecost. In fact they say they have more power.  Now there are prophetical Watchmen today, but their ministry is to warn of false teachings and compare scripture to signs of the times. As Ephesians 4 says in speaking of this and other gifts, they are;

" 12 for the equipping of the saints for the work of ministry, for the building up of the body of Christ; 13 until we all attain to the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, to a mature man, to the measure of the stature which belongs to the fullness of Christ. 14 As a result, we are no longer to be children, tossed here and there by waves and carried about by every wind of doctrine, by the trickery of people, by craftiness in deceitful scheming;  15 but speaking the truth in love, we are to grow up in all aspects into Him who is the head, that is, Christ,"  Ephesians 4:12-15

But these NAR "Watchmen" are of the kind of prophets and apostles spoken of in verse 14.

This "decreeing" and the making of "declarations" are all part of this NAR dominion theology.  Below is what is "decreed" and "declared" in this document.  This decreeing is supposed to be based upon Job 22:28.  It is a dissertation by one of Job's friends, Eliphaz, to Job.  Eliphaz told Job;

You will also declare a thing, And it will be established for you; So light will shine on your ways."

The problem with taking this verse and running with it can be seen at the end of Job where God says to Eliphaz in chapter 42:7

And so it was, after the Lord had spoken these words to Job, that the Lord said to Eliphaz the Temanite, “My wrath is aroused against you and your two friends, for you have not spoken of Me what is right, as My servant Job has.

But let's look at what these NAR Apostles decree and declare.  (Emphasis mine)

"Watchman Decree

As a Patriot of faith, I attest my allegiance first and foremost to the kingdom of God and the Great Commission.

We Make Our Declarations

We decree that America’s executive branch of government will honor God and defend the Constitution.
We decree that our legislative branch (Congress) will write only laws that are righteous and constitutional.
We decree that our judicial system will issue rulings that are biblical and constitutional.

We declare that we stand against wokeness, the occult and every evil attempt against our nation.
We declare and we now take back our God-given freedoms, according to our Constitution.
We declare that we take back influence at the local level in our communities.

We decree that we take back and permanently control positions of influence and leadership in each of the *Seven Mountains.
We decree that the blood of Jesus covers and protects our nation. It protects and separates us for God.

We declare that our nation is energy independent.
We declare that America is strong spiritually, financially, militarily and technologically.

We decree that evil carries no power, authority or rights in our land nor over our people.
We decree that we will operate in unity, going beyond denominational lines in order to accomplish the purposes of God for our nation.

And we decree that America shall be saved
We know that this country was founded on Judeo-Christian principles
We know the truth: Therefore we stand for the truth and will NEVER be deceived
We will never stop fighting!
We will NEVER, EVER, EVER give up or give in"

So then, decreeing in their view means God has to listen to their decrees and perform what they want and what they decree will happen.  Note the first three decrees are mandates to the three branches of government in the United States.  Now notice how this is to happen; "we take back".  They then move from the government to ALL their Seven Mountain Mandates to "take back" and "permanently control" all the influence and leadership in the other areas of culture.  That is how this transformation will happen; by force over the people in the form of mandating morality after taking control of influencing leadership positions. "Morality" is something we will look at later.

These declare that America is spiritually strong.  How can these just "declare" something that takes a whole people to become born again believers for his to happen.  Can one decree a nation to be saved?  They are throwing out thunderbolts like Zeus.

Note too, this declaration is ecumenical when they say they will operate in "unity" and going "beyond denominational lines to accomplish what they say are the purposes of God for America.  And ecumenical it is as we will see more of shortly.

What is present in this "Decree" is making a moral society.  What is sketchy is when they decree that the blood of Jesus covers and protects our nation; but they are decreeing it apart from a nation who's heart does not belong to God.  What is only mentioned in the beginning without decree is the preaching of the gospel so that some can be saved.  The decrees for takeover are the main focus.  When they say they stand against the "occult"; the NAR Apostles, Prophets, and churches, actually practice occult methods. When they say they will "never be deceived"; they have been, and are now the deceivers.

In reality, this practice of "decreeing" is out of the New Age.  Speak something into reality.  One more occult deception taught to the unsuspecting.

So the NAR via Copeland alone is amassing more people via the pull of being a "Patriot".  But this is only one small example with a miniscule showing of associations between these people as seen above.    So let's continue with this Patriot movement.

Andrew Wommack - Truth & Liberty Coalition

Wommack another false prophet is one of the founders of  another patriotic organization, the Truth and Liberty Coalition, along with David Barton, Lance Wallnau, (both Copeland associates)  Karen Conrad, Bill Federer and Richard Harris. (Keep David Barton in mind).  Like the others, Wommack is a Dominionist and a part of the NAR.  He was "anointed" by Copeland (Copeland speaking as the voice of Jesus) to be a prophet.  Below are a list of who are his associates as seen in the pictures.

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Wommack and Copeland

The people below are the above listed founders and are the Board Members and Exec Director of Wommack's ministry.  Again, note David Barton as well as Lance Wallnau.

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Board Members ("Leadership") of Wommack's Truth & Liberty Coalition

 

The photos of the people below are on Wommack's website and are referred to as "Influencers" for his ministry and the NAR

glenn beck george barna che ahn ben carson mike huckabee
Glenn Beck George Barna Che Ahn Ben Carson Mike Huckabee
         
rodney howard browne danish Metaxas    
Rodney Howard-Browne Dinesh D'Souza Eric Metaxas    

Quite an an association of friends here I would say. Now some in this above list of names may be surprising to many as it seems out of place for them to be associated with a false prophet, or anyone with the NAR, such as Barna, Carson, and Huckabee and D'Souza, seemingly great patriots. But the NAR has a lot of influence in these "Influencers" who then are supposed to; and do, influence the many.  Barna has been part of this since the old Church Growth Movement.  The regulars of the NAR here are Glenn Beck, Che Ahn, Rodney Howard-Browne and Eric Metaxas who have been seen previously.  But just a few more....

In the photos below from the Truth & Liberty Coalition website we see that Wommack is associated with Calvary Chapel Pastor Rob McCoy (again), Calvary Chapel San Jose Pastor Mike McClure, David Barton's son, Tim Barton, Rick Green, (he gets around) who is actually David Barton's partner at WallBuilders, and then, Copeland Panel's Lance Wallnau with David Barton and Wommack.

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Rob McCoy and Andrew Wommack Mike McClure- Pastor, Calvary Chapel SJ Tim Barton, David Barton's son

 

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Rick Green of Wallbuilders with Andrew Wommack & Richard Harris David Barton of Wallbuilders with Lance Wallnau & Wommack

So let's conclude these NAR associations with two more highly influential people in their seven cultures; especially government and churches as noted previously; - Rick Green and David Barton.

Rick Green & David Barton - WallBuilders - Patriot Academy - Biblical Citizenship

I have said a couple of times previously to keep the names Rick Green and David Barton in mind and  Now I will get to them aside from associations to to Copeland's "Flashpoint" and Wommack's Truth & Liberty Coalition.  As noted previously, Green has a partner by the name of David Barton as seen as an associate of Wommack above.  Together they have an organization called "WallBuilders". 

A little background on the two.  Barton is referred to by those who know him as "America's Historian" and is alleged to be an expert historian on the United States and it's founding fathers.  We will see...  Green calls himself "America's Constitution Coach" and has an organization called the "Patriot Academy".  Out of this flows what Green calls, "Biblical Citizenship Classes" and a newer "Constitution Alive! class which is called a "Citizen's Guide To The Constitution".  Green also has a weapons range in Texas and another class for it called "Constitutional Defense".  See picture below.

These are the two I mentioned in Part 1 as flying under the radar in being associated with the NAR as we will see shortly.

GreenBarton Wallbuilders association
constitutional defense logo weapons range Weapon Training Range  
 

Now before I get into the ideology of these two very influential businessmen, I will show a sampling of their NAR associations and how they are well seated in the NAR cultural system allowing them to deceive myriads of churches today.   The pictures below show both Green's and Barton's association to NAR leaders, their Apostles and Prophets, aside from prior ones.

Rick Green

The photos below show more of Rick Green's association to Copeland's ministry and his panel of higher ranked NAR Apostles such as Lance Wallnau and Hank Kunneman as well as prophet Dutch Sheets.  Green also has an association with Rob McCoy.  McCoy is with TurningPoint USA and they promote Green's Biblical Citizenship classes.  McCoy is also in with NAR leader Che Ahn as seen in Part 2

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Green on Flashpoint w/ Wallnau & Kunneman Green's X page showing him on Flashpoint with Sheets and Host, Gene Bailey  Green with Rob McCoy

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Now Green also has a website called "BibicalCivics.com".  On this site Green has two videos hosted by himself and Copeland's Flashpoint Host, Gene Bailey (who is also a pastor at Copeland's church).  These videos were made at TurningPoint USA's "America Fest".  The photos below are from these two videos.  The first is a screenshot of the home page of BiblicalCivics.com.  Here again shows the relationship between Green, Copeland, and both of them to TurningPoint USA.

Note the logos at the top of the photo.  They depict the association between Copeland's "Flashpoint" (left logo),  Copeland's "Flashpoint Army" (right logo) and Green's "Patriot Academy" (center logo).

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Rick Green & Gene Bailey video at TurningPoint USA's AmericaFest

Below are screenshots from the two videos on this above site showing cameo appearances of others who are involved in Green's Biblical Citizenship classes.  You can see that Calvary Chapel pastor Jack Hibbs, Dave Barton and actor Kirk Cameron are part of this Biblical Citizenship teaching as well as former Congresswoman Michele Bachmann, and an Orthodox Rabi by the name of Daniel Lapin.  Note that former Arkansas Governor Mike Huckabee is endorsing Rick Green.  These are really disturbing associations, but reveal, as all of these do, the vast reach and deception of the NAR.

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Jack Hibbs - Biblical Citizenship teacher David Barton - Biblical Citizenship teacher Kirk Cameron
     
Biblical Citizenship Bachmann Barton Biblical Citizenship Rabbi Lapien Biblical Citizenship mike huckabee
Michele Bachmann - David Barton Rabbi Daniel Lapin Mike Huckabee - Endorsing Rick Green

 

David Barton

Now lets move over to David Barton, the "historian" side of WallBuilders.  A February 2005 edition of Times Magazine lists Barton as one of the 25 most influencial "Evangelicals" in America.  The article on Barton says in part,
"books like The Myth of Separation, have made him a hero to millions — including some powerful politicians." https://content.time.com/time/specials/packages/article/0,28804,1993235_1993243_1993261,00.html.  And so apparently he still is this hero to millions and to note; "powerful politicians".  A lot of influence in government and in many churches; a sign of successful infiltration.

We have seen Barton two times in the above photos, once as speaker at a Biblical Citizenship class, and then in a conversation with former Congresswoman Michele Bachmann and as being on the Board of NAR prophets Andrew Wommack's Truth & Liberty Coalition.  His associations are just as revealing as Rick Green's.  Below is a screenshot of Barton with Copeland on a Kenneth Copeland Ministries video discussing signs and miracles.  Note that Barton's the video is from 8 years ago, 2015.  So their relationship goes way back
There is another video from 2017 of Barton congratulating Copeland on his 50 years of ministry https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xM2xx13ljsg

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David Barton and Kenneth Copeland discussing signs and miracles in 2015

Below we can see Barton praying for Mormon Glenn Beck on the top left photo.  Barton declares Beck is a Christian.  The top right photo shows Barton on a Copeland "Flashpoint" show with Host and pastor at Copeland's church, Gene Bailey, along with Lance Wallnau, Glenn Beck and a retired Air Force Lt Col by the name of Rudolph Atallah.

The bottom row gives us interesting associations between Barton and Jack Hibbs, and Barton and Rob McCoy; both Calvary Chapel pastors.  This shows a lack of discernment and compromise seemingly for the sake of unity against the common enemy.  Israel fell for this same "unity" against common enemies which resulted in God turning from them, even with one King who once relied on God (2 Chronicles 16:1-10).  Paul also said,

21 You cannot drink the cup of the Lord and the cup of demons; you cannot partake of the Lord’s table and of the table of demons. 1 Corinthians 10:21

Lessons here.

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Barton praying for Glenn Beck Barton, Beck, Wallnau, Lt Col Rudolf Atallah (USAF Retired)
   
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Barton w/ Jack Hibbs 8 years ago -Real Life Barton w/ Rob McCoy
TurningPoint USA Pastor's Summit

Let's continue.

Barton also has a relationship with Rick Joyner (left photo below) Joyner was the senior pastor of MorningStar Ministries.  This is a New Age church laced with the occult and demonic activity during services.  For just one example see the video titled, "Morningstar Fellowship Extatic - Prophetic Worship" at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ao8EuRQyuFI. (copy and paste to your browser's address bar). Watch the people and the children as their demon possessed prophet utters her noises.

As another important point: Jesus Culture's Kim Walker-Smith spent a year at this church when she was younger, learning the occult aspects of influencing music.  See this 17 minute video of her and worship leader Suzie Yaraie and many who are under the influence of some spirit at one of the "worship" events.  Kim has short hair, is younger and has on a red top and grey pants.  At one point she is so out of control that Yaraie pulls her back by her pants (about 6:25 in).  This is NAR "worship"

"Suzy Yaraei and Kim Walker "Worship Song Dance 2004" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8V84stF02qo

Walker-Smith continued with her occultism as leader of Bethel's music band, Jesus Culture.  During concerts she told the kids and adults of her visual "encounters" with Jesus and God and expressed this was the purpose of the concerts to get these attendees to have their own "encounters".  Bethel Music's Jenn Johnson, daughter-in-law of Bill Johnson boasted of speaking to a blue colored entity she said was the "holy spirit", and claimed to have been transported out of a Bethel Church service when she said God grabbed her by her hair and took her into the cosmos above the earth.

Yet, churches all over the world use these and other similar New Age music leader's music as "worship" in their services.

It is also interesting to note that C. Peter Wagner attributes "Contemporary Worship" to the NAR.

Less Spoken of Occult Practices

There are some occult practices of witchcraft that seem to get placed on the back burner and are not publically displayed among the NAR people.  That is "Translating" or "Teleporting" from one place to another as alluded to with Jenn Johnson. Below are three friends of Rick Joyner as examples.

  While doing research I came across a less know NAR type by the name of Bruce Allen and his wife Reshma from this area.  They do not run in the same circle of NAR prophets noted in these articles, but are well acquainted with them.   Their entire ministry is dedicated to teaching people to be able to Translate themselves anywhere they want to go, including heaven.  Allen speaks of traveling to heaven a number of times; sees Jesus, God, and has even given instructions to angels.

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Bobby Connor
 
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Bob Jones 

While watching a video of Allen on Sid Roth's occult show "It's Supernatural", I saw Allen speak of an un-named friend he was visiting and said that three well known older and some deceased NAR prophet's, Bobby Connors, Bob Jones, and Paul Cain, would come to visit him.  Allen said his friend showed him a chair these prophets always sat in because it had a portal in it that allowed them to Translate to other realms, etc.  Allen said he was able to to the same after some "practice" to "activate" this power.

Now I had never run across much of any of this occult practice with the Apostles and Prophets listed here.  And since Allen did not say who is friend was, I was not sure about the truth of this story.

However I found a video of Connor talking on the Sid Roth "It's Supernatural" show.  On this show he is telling the host that he was "caught up" into heaven and saw God on the throne.  In it toward the end Connor mentions the "Moravian portal" where he had been praying.
https://www.facebook.com/its.supernatural/videos/2023-this-will-shock-the-world-prophetic-word/620503949835195/    This is a place called "Prayer Mountain" around Moravian Falls, South Carolina. These NAR people believe it is the second most active "portal" for angels; the Mt of Olives being first https://prophetsreward.org/spiritual-history-of-prayer-mountain/ 

 I also found a video where a man by the name of Jerame Nelson tells the account of meeting Bobby Connor and Conner telling him that God said he was suppose to mentor Jerame.  Nelson then said he went on these Teleporting trips with Connor.  Nelson said Conner told him he has seen and spoken to Jesus, etc. The other guy the Nelson was telling this to said Conner did not like to relate these things much. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Re_ZUaXuRxo

Bob Jones claimed the same thing. http://www.thenarrowpath.co.uk/the-false-teachings-of-mike-bickle-and-ihop.html

There is a video online of Jones taking the attendees through a "guided imagery" exercise in order to be transported to heaven.  It is complete with the breathing techniques and "imagining" used by witches and other New Age and Eastern religions.  It appears to be at Bethel Church, Redding (on Bethel TV).  After the exercise Jones then walks them through some other things resulting in the usual demonic activity of uncontrollable movements. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M6t_lHl2BU4

Another video is an audio a person got from Rick Joyner's MorningStar Ministries church where Jones is again walking people through this guided imagery to transport to heaven.  This guy added music for more of a "New Age" meditation esthetic. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pRPMFsx1TTI

Jones was also a believer in the concept of "portals" that man and angels passed in and out of, including "Prayer Mountain".

So these are another of the types of associates Barton has.

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These occult associations melt this NAR "church" and the government together.  For instance, Retired General Michael Flynn has been on Copeland's Flashpoint a number of times and has spoken at Hank Kunnman's church.  As you can see in the photo, there are also associations to Lindell and Wallnau.

In one speaking engagement at Kunneman's church in  October of 2021, Flynn told the audience to repeat a prayer after him.

This prayer he spoke was almost verbatim words spoken in a prayer in 1984 out of the mouth of a New Age cult leader by the name of Elizabeth Clare Prophet who founded the "Church Universal and Triumphant" in the 70s.  It was an apocalyptic doomsday cult based upon the occult religion of Theosophy started by the Russian occultist, Helena Blavatsky .  These were trying to set up a Utopian government on earth. (Putin is a follower of this Theosophy ideology.)

 Flynn back peddled on this prayer when confronted about it by the Q people, saying he was not a Satanist, that it was an old Catholic prayer; but, not so....  You can see comparison videos at https://altcensored.com/watch?v=-YX_nlUhLKw

Prophet was a Channel who called upon the "Ascended Masters" of whom Jesus was one, and considered the "Sixth Ray".  Those who follow these demons are waiting for the return of a "Golden Age" with a "world master / teacher" will rule.  He is supposed to be a "Christ", the Seventh Ray, who is called St Germaine.  There is something wrong in the shadows.  This "Master" has said he cannot return until the world gets "awakened" to him.  There is to be a "new race" of people promoting this transformation. Hmm..  Kind of like the NAR's "new breed" and preparing the world for the arrival of this world leader so he can come. Sounds rather NARish

While it is not known right now what association Flynn may or may not have with this old cult or one of the several offspring's of it, the ideologies of the Church Universal Triumphant (CUT) are eerily similar to the NAR's, and some of their complaints are valid.   However, like the similarities above, others are of the occult too.

But back to Barton and Joyner...

Joyner is also in partnership with retired Army General Jerry Boykin in an organization called "The Oak Initiative".  Both are in a esoteric group called, "The Knights of Malta" (right photo below)

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Dave Barton on Rick Joyner's Social Media with a 16 part presentation Ret. General Jerry Boykin w Joyner as Knights of Malta

Let's continue with the Barton - Joyner - Boykin relationship.

In 2013, WallBuilders hosted a Conference called the "Pro-Family Legislative Network".  Below is a list of speakers at this conference I obtained using the Wayback Machine as it is not longer available on normal web.  Note that along with some of the usual suspects (Glenn Beck, Daniel Lapin), and some interesting government officials, we have David Barton, Rick Green and Jerry Boykin as speakers (circled in red).  Others of interest are in yellow. But note another; George Barna

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So, it is important to know there is a relationship with Barton and Green to Boykin; especially in what Boykin said at this conference concerning the suggestion of revolution as we will see Joyner related.

 

The Coming Civil War Of The NAR

During his speech Boykin said;

"The Lord is a warrior and in Revelation 19 is says when he comes back, he’s coming back as what? A warrior. A mighty warrior leading a mighty army, riding a white horse with a blood-stained white robe … I believe that blood on that robe is the blood of his enemies ’cause he’s coming back as a warrior carrying a sword. 

And I believe now – I’ve checked this outI believe that sword he’ll be carrying when he comes back is an AR-15.

Now I want you to think about this: where did the Second Amendment come from? … From the Founding Fathers, it’s in the Constitution. Well, yeah, I know that. But where did the whole concept come from? It came from Jesus when he said to his disciples ‘now, if you don’t have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one.’

I know, everybody says that was a metaphor.  IT WAS NOT A METAPHOR! He was saying in building my kingdom, you’re going to have to fight at times. You won’t build my kingdom with a sword, but you’re going to have to defend yourself.  And that was the beginning of the Second Amendment, that’s where the whole thing came from. I can’t prove that historically and David [Barton] will counsel me when this is over, but I know that’s where it came from.

And the sword today is an AR-15, so if you don’t have one, go get one. You’re supposed to have one. It’s biblical."
https://www.militaryreligiousfreedom.org/press-releases/2014/Boykin_2-21-14.html

Satan attempted to use Scripture in deceiving Jesus to fall down and worship him.  When you look at when Jesus was tempted by Jesus in Luke 4, Satan either twisted the Scriptures or omitted parts, or took them out of context.  Satan used the words, "It is written".  But Jesus, the author of the Word, corrected him at each temptation.  Boykin, using Jesus speaking to the disciples about getting a sword, did not mention what Jesus said later that same evening when Jesus was arrested and Peter cut off the ear of the High Priests servant in self defense.  Jesus said,

52 But Jesus said to him, “Put your sword in its place, for all who take the sword will [a]perish by the sword. 53 Or do you think that I cannot now pray to My Father, and He will provide Me with more than twelve legions of angels?  Matthew 26:52-53

Now what about the statement that the 2nd Amendment came from the Bible; this is not so according to history.  It came about as a result of some of the founding fathers seeing how European countries with tyrannical systems had standing armies that were in control, and their seeing a need to make sure that this did not happen in this new system (see https://www.britannica.com/topic/Second-Amendment/Origins-and-historical-antecedents - others).

It is interesting too that this "right" as within the  "unalienable Rights" of  the Declaration of Independence  these guys refer to, was not given to the slaves of Jefferson, nor was it given to members of the Tori Party.  Self defense was fine, you just could not possess a gun. (https://therivertownpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/38-Self-defense-the-2nd-Amendment-and-the-Bible-pdf.pdf ).  So much for the rights of all the citizens being a Biblical right.  Some were excluded their God given rights.

Now to add to Boykin's speech about the need to be armed, let's look at Boykin's friend and partner, Rick Joyner.  In the video below Joyner was speaking of a "prophetical dream" he had a number of years prior and updated it in 2021.  In it he saw a revolution happening in the United States.

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Rick Joyner's prophetical dream of a U.S. revolution:  inevitable, so prepare

This is what Joyner related in this above video:

Joyner had a dream in 2018 where he said God showed him a vision of a revolution / civil war in the US.  Joyner said that God “seeded” former military members in the US who can do “urban warfare, to form militias. (From whence do these militia people come?  Patriot Academy, ect???)

He said God showed him through red letters written that this revolution /civil war is “ripe, inevitable, and successful”.  Joyner said he saw this coming decades ago and wrote about in a book called “The Harvest” (Note, The Harvest was first published 1989) .  Joyner said, “it is upon us now. 

Joyner said “we have crossed the line; it’s not going to change

He said it has gone beyond prayer and praying for revival for turning back to God, to: “getting ready for it”.

So then, since Boykin speaks of a need for weapons, and his partner Joyner speaks of getting ready for a civil war that will be successful against the tyranny of the government, and that this revolution is coming quickly and to be "getting ready" for it, it would seem that others, including associate Barton, and his associate Green would also be aware of this.  After all, Joyner is a respected long time prophet in the NAR.  Keep this in mind as later it has to do with something Green deceptively asserted to some people.

Here is more.  Recall also that in 2018 NAR associate Matt Shea from Spokane, WA, wrote a document called "A Biblical Basis For War", which gave reason in his mind for armed rebellion.  Recall that he was associated with Rob McCoy, Jay Koopman and Sean Feucht in the 2022 and 2023 Matt Shea / Feucht concerts in Spokane. All of these are NAR.  It would seem that all these would be aware of Matt Shea's thinking as his manifesto and associations to various not so good groups had been all over the news for a for a couple of years.  What about Green and Barton?

Shea was also involved in a 2016 Patriot event in North Idaho, where Rick Green was also a speaker.  Shea was involved with militias back then. Barton was a speaker at the 2018 Patriot event.  Matt Shea was again a speaker at the event in 2019.  Green was back in the area in 2023 speaking at a "We Believe We Vote" event in Spokane.  Northern Idaho and E. Washington are highly patriotic areas that make a good recruiting area for these guys.  Did these converse together?  Hard to say.

Shea's document itself is pretty intense.  Part of it says,

"10. Rules of War
a. Conduct a census of all able bodied males (18-45).
i. Identify Exemptions (see above). ii. Appoint Captains of 10’s, 50’s, 100’s and 1000’s.
b. Avoid blood shed if possible.
c. Make an offer of Peace before declaring war.
i. Not a negotiation or compromise of righteousness. ii. Must surrender on terms of justice and righteousness:
1. Stop all abortions; 2. No same-sex marriage; 3. No idolatry or occultism; 4. No communism; and 5. Must obey Biblical law. iii. If they yield – must pay share of work or taxes. iv. If they do not yield kill all males..."

It appears that this is the underlying direction of the NAR.  Now in order to make an offer of peace before declaring war, as Shea said in "c" above, there must already be a standing "militia" as the opponent.  This "righteousness" in "i" is a key point in a coming quote by Barton.  Note too that if the people do not yield to the NAR demands, Shea's says; "kill all males".  This sounds more like an Anti-Christ ideology during the Tribulation: because it is.  For them, it is a forced compliance to their morals.

Now the photos below show one of the more interesting set of associations that Barton has.  The photo on the left shows a 2009 article in an NAR prophet publication called, "The Elijah List" advertising a "Convergence" in April of 2009 (almost 15 years ago) being hosted by Cindy and Mike Jacobs.  Note that among the "usual suspects" NAR Apostles and Prophets is David Barton.  The photo on the right shows the 2010 "Convergence, again hosted by Cindy and Mike Jacobs.  Note that in 2010, the late C. Peter Wagner is one of the speakers.  As I noted at the beginning of Part 3, Jacobs and Wagner were long time friends and somewhat partners in the beginning of the NAR.  This relationship among Jacobs, Wagner, and Barton is important to us later here in regard to something else Green asserted.

Equally important to note is that the Jacob's and Barton have been friends a long time.  To illustrate - In 1991 Cindy Jacobs wrote a book called, " Possessing The Gates Of The Enemy; A Training Manual For Militant Intercession".  It has copyright dates of 1991, 1994, 2009, and 2018.  It's Forward was written by prophet Lou Engle, and Cindy's friend and leader of the NAR ideology, C Peter Wagner.  But in Chapter 1, pages 25-27, Jacobs speaks of a dream she had (was in 2013) in which she saw Barton having an accident with his family in a van they were going to be driving.  Jacobs said that her husband went to Barton's house and they took it to a mechanic and found bad wheel bearings.

So, within this book, there is a link from Barton to Jacobs that goes back a long time.  With this a direct link from Jacobs to Wagner in the same book seems reasonable that Barton, who probably read it,  also has the knowledge of Wagner's areas of culture and knowledge of the NAR.  Since Barton and Green are partners, it would seem that Green would also be aware of this; even discounting all of Greens NAR associates and NAR events, which are many.

Again, the relationships between Jacobs and Barton, and Jacobs and Wagner are important to what is coming.  Also, note that along with Barton at this Convergence are false prophets Dutch Sheets and Lance Wallnau.  Keep this date of 2009 in mind and the association between Barton and Wallnau for later.

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There are, of course, many more associations to NAR leaders with all of these people.  It is like a giant spider web that crosses many people to many people.

Green Denies Knowledge of New Apostolic Reformation

I said in Part 1 and previously, there were two persons that seemingly have been attempting to fly under the radar in being associated with the "New Apostolic Reformation, even while a part of it.  These two are Rick Green and David Barton.

Let's to illustrate this, lets start with Rick Green and his Biblical Citizenship classes.

Green asserted to some people in 2023 that he was completely ignorant of the NAR and had not heard of it until a person in this group inquired of an association with it (at least as it in using the term itself).  Green did, however note that he was on a lot of media outlets, and that he partnered with a broad range of what he calls "faith communities" that he does not agree with, (we have seen who they are).  But Green said he has joined with them to preserve liberty and religious freedom (not so honest here).  And actually, this verifies what I have said earlier; there is an ecumenism to this Patriot movement to fight a common tyrannical government.  But as Hibbs and others like him have done, this action opposes the Word of God, even in the New Testament (2 John 7-11)

Green also said that they "sometimes" refer to areas of the culture as "mountains", but did not specifically mention "seven mountains" which directly ties him and Barton, and others and knowledge of the NAR and it's goals. There are a number of things amiss with this and it seems as if Green was trying to ignore the "seven" part which puts him in with this ideology.  Actually, Green and Barton are well aware of them.

Green Understands The Seven Mountain Mandate and The Source

For instance, in one of their WallBuilders podcasts over six years ago on March 14, 2017, Rick Green and David Barton hosted their podcast with well known and followed NAR Apostle and Prophet Lance Wallnau.   Wallnau is actually credited with coining the phrase, "Seven Mountain Mandate".  The entire conversation on the podcast was about the Seven Mountain Mandate.     Below is the introduction to the show in part;

"We also discuss the seven mountains and how you can influence your mountain to bring change to your culture and community...

...And later in the program, we’re going to have Lance Wallnau with us. He’s one of the guys that has been talking about the seven mountains for many years and getting people out of the church to go into every area of the culture..."

 So, it appears that Rick does know what the "Seven Mountain Mandate" is, and that people are to influence a mountain, to bring change to that culture, which is a little more than saying they "sometimes" refer to areas of the culture as "mountains". This this is what Rick had to say to Lance Wallnau later;

"...Now, you were tuned into this partly because of what you do in the different seven mountains but specifically, the government mountain.  Seems like God’s really called your heart to influence that particular area. 

For some of new our listeners, we’ve had a lot of stations and whatnot, can you just explain that for them and what you mean by the seven mountains and specifically what the government mountain is and why it needs to be influenced right now?...

So, Green and Barton have had knowledge of these mandates for a number of years.  And we can see from some of the photos that Green has been on panels with Wallnau.  So was Green being honest or elusive to this group he was asserting this too?

Does Green Have Knowledge of the NAR / Ideology?

Now let's look at the other thing Green said about not hearing about the "New Apostolic Reformation".  True?

At the beginning of the podcast when Wallnau was introduced,  Green said,

"Our special guest today, Lance Wallnau, tons of books, and you’ve probably heard or seen him on television. I’ve listened to him for years but it's the first time we’ve had him on the program..."

So if Green, in 2017, said he had listened to Wallnau for years, how can he say he has no idea of the NAR.  For sure he is aware of, and would appear, in agreement with these people.  Maybe he had not heard of the term?  Hmm...

And if we look at Barton's understanding of this, as seen in the 2009 Convergence speaker list where Barton is a speaker with Wallnau and the Jacobs, the "Generals" of the NAR, Barton has been involved with the NAR a very, very, long time; 15 years.  Then when I found that Wallbuilders was around in 2008 and Green was part of it in 2009, it becomes very difficult to believe Barton and Green are not ingrained within the NAR and not just associating with these false prophets for the sake of liberty and freedom (see "Wallbuilders Live Air Date: 04/29/2009 Summary: David Barton and Rick Green talk with former Congressman Ernest Istook" https://archive.org/details/wallbuilders-live-2009-04-29 "

In another part of this 2017 podcast, Green and Barton were commenting about their critics who refer to them as "Reconstructionist".  Part of this conversation was;

"They don’t even know what that means and then they say, “Oh we’re reconstructionist.” And that’s supposed to scare everybody and that’s a silly claim too because reconstructionist that’s a particularly narrow part of theology within the reformed movement. And that presupposes that our theology is reformed which it is not.

I don’t have any trouble with Reformed Theology"

 Now what I found is that when you Google "reconstructionist" and "New Apostolic Reformation", there are a number of web sites that show that the two are connected such as this one from 2011 called, Dominion Theology, "Christian Reconstuctionism, And The New Apostolic Reformation" https://religiondispatches.org/dominion-theology-christian-reconstructionism-and-the-new-apostolic-reformation/.  And this is just article.

So if these two were reading the comments of their critics, it would seem more than likely Green and Barton would have come across some of these sites and seen this term, "New Apostolic Reformation".  They would have seen the distaste of it by the secular side as well as some discerning Christians.  You add this to Barton's connections to Cindy Jacobs and to Peter Wagner and all the others, it would seem remote that Green had not heard of this term before as he related to this group in 2023.

Greens Assertion Of Patriot Academy Denouncing Violence / Government Takeover

Now Green also asserted to this group that the Patriot Academy does not advocate a violent takeover of the government, but also noted to this group he does have a weapons training academy.  He maintains mostly older people take it. Now while he and Barton say this, let's look back to the comments of their associates, Boykin and Joyner.  Both indicate the need for weapons to prepare for what Joyner said God showed him; a "successful" revolution.  Then to Matt Shea's Biblical Basis For War document.  It is apparent that there are those in the NAR that do advocate violence.

But inaccuracies and falsehoods run within these two.

Did The Founding Fathers Base The Constitution On The Bible?

First, Green and Barton claim that the Constitution is a Biblical document, and was used by our founding fathers to frame the Constitution.  Number one, and I will address this, our founding fathers were not Christians as is declared by this NAR group and many others.  Now on the Constitution's origin, I have found a number of documents that our founders based the Constitution upon the concepts of the "Enlightenment" / "Age of Reason" out of the 1700s Europe.  They frequently refer to John Locke, whom they frequently refer to as a Christian, as the source.  But what do we find about Locke and the Constitution?  Lets look below

"The American Revolution and the subsequent framework of American government were heavily influenced by John Locke, Baron de Montesquieu, and Jean Jacques Rousseau - three Enlightenment philosophers who "developed theories of government in which some or even all the people would govern" (Constitutional Rights Foundation, 2019, para. 10). Each rejected in one way or another the views of Thomas Hobbes, who believed government must be led by an all-powerful king...

...John Locke (1632-1704) was a political theorist who is remembered as the father of modern republican government. He believed a state could only be legitimate if it received the consent of the governed through a social contract. In Locke's view, social contract theory protected the natural rights of life, liberty, and property. If this did not happen, he argued, the people had a right to rebel. His ideas about the consent of the governed and the right to rebellion would later influence the supporters of the American Revolution and the framers of the U.S. Constitution....

...In Locke's view, all men—literally men and not women—had the political rights to life, liberty, and the pursuit of private property. He also believed that human beings, because of divine will, are by nature inherently good and can make their own reasonable decisions if left alone by the government..."

\https://socialsci.libretexts.org/Bookshelves/Political_Science_and_Civics/Building_Democracy_for_All%253A_Interactive_Explorations_of_Government_and_Civic_Life_(Maloy_and_Trust)/01%253A_The_Philosophical_Foundations_of_the_United_States_Political_System/1.03%253A_Enlightenment_Thinkers_and_Democratic_Government

And finally,

The Enlightenment, with its ideas and ideals of human rights and the relationship of citizens and governments as expressed by such writers as Locke, formed the basis of thought of the American Revolution. Thomas Paine, Benjamin Franklin, John Adams, Thomas Jefferson, and other Founding Fathers were influenced by the Enlightenment and took those ideals, that a government has a duty to the people, and used that as a lens through which to view the relationship between the American colonies and the British government of King George. III. 

https://human.libretexts.org/Bookshelves/History/National_History/Book%253A_United_States_History_to_1877_(Locks_et_al.)/06%253A_Growing_Pains_in_the_Colonies/6.02%253A_The_Enlightenment_and_the_Great_Awakening

So, how accurate then are Green and Barton in their claims the Constitution is a Biblical document?  To be sure it can be viewed as moral document or a secular document, but as is said above, the ideals of it came out of the Enlightenment philosophers such as Locke.  The NAR states as one of their Biblical source example is that the rights of "Life, liberty, and property" were taken from the Bible.  However, they were out of  the Enlightenment.  Also the fact that he said these rights did not include women, and that by "divine will" humans are by nature, good, actually is in opposition to the true word of God.

The First Amendment And The Ten Commandments

So let's just take one aspect of the Constitution in looking at the First Amendment and see how it fits God's Word.  It says,

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

According to a Constitutional legal site called "Justia", the reading of this part of the First Amendment is a follows;

"The First Amendment of the Constitution contains two clauses related to religious freedom: the Establishment Clause and the Free Exercise Clause. The Establishment Clause prevents the government from making a law related to "an establishment of religion," which means that it cannot endorse a certain religion or become entangled in religious activities. This essentially describes the separation of church and state that is fundamental to American democracy. Meanwhile, the Free Exercise Clause prevents the government from prohibiting the free exercise of individual religious beliefs. It also provides some protection for religious practices. https://www.justia.com/constitutional-law/religious-freedom-under-the-constitution/

So then, it appears that the Constitution is inclusive to allowing ALL religions to exist freely in the United States. While this is a seemingly fair thing, is it a Biblical principle?  Only in God grant each individual choice to follow, or not to follow Him. However on the concept of inclusiveness being Biblical; not so much. God told Israel in Exodus 20 after bringing them out of a multi god nation,

“I am the Lord your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of [a]bondage. You shall have no other gods before Me Exodus 20:2-3

 

God reminded them again before they crossed over the Jordan to go into the land of Canaan as seen in Deuteronomy 5.  This land had multiple religions and multiple gods.  They were not to engage with them, but to destroy them.  But, instead they became an ecumenical nation, eventually losing sight of the true God that saved them.  Our Constitution says Ok to many religions; God says, not so for His people.  So it may be an inclusive secular document, just not a Biblical one.  And, as seen before, the Constitution was based upon the philosophies of the Enlightenment.

 

Now notice in the First amendment and the Justia explanation,  that the government is not to endorse any certain religion, and notes that there must be a separation of church and state (which the NAR says was not the intent).  Now there are many faiths in the United States.  The Parliament of World Religions had their 2023 event in Chicago and noted there were 210 plus faiths and spiritual traditions that attended.  All of which must be accepted according to the Consitituion.  However, the NAR has taken it upon themselves to declare their brand of Christianity (a false brand) to be a future government endorsed and government enforced religion.

 

"Not so", many would say.  But let's go back to NAR key leader Che Ahn and what he said during his speech on January 6, 2021 in Washington D.C. as noted in Part 2, when he said,

“We’re going to throw Jezebel out and Jehu’s gonna rise up, and we’re gonna rule and reign through President Trump and under the lordship of Jesus Christ.” Che Ahn

Jehu was one of the kings of Israel who had the evil wife of King Ahab, the Baal worshiping Jezebel, thrown out of a high window causing her death.  Jehu then proceeded to eliminated the rest of Ahab's and this evil woman's family and the priests of Baal (2 Kings 9).  Back then, this was a good thing.

Now to me that speech of Che Ahn sounds like this one particular religion under the "lordship of Jesus" (Christian), out of over 200, wants to team up with the head of the government, to rule the United States, and as we will see for some; the world.  It appears to me that this would not be in conjunction with this secular document which prohibits this.

On July 2022, General Michael Flynn (Catholic, and Trump's short term National Security Advisor), told the people at a Re-Awaken America conference that pastors need to preach the Constitution from the pulpit as much as they teach the Bible.
 (https://twitter.com/patriottakes/status/1546848013749993474?s=20&t=FM_QTAZDw_qOxbMqCSxodQ )

Flynn shows he does not know the Word of God when he declares this.  Pastors and Christian teachers are to, as Paul admonished Timothy, "Preach the Word".  And Flynn's and other's comments are the reason why.  More on Flynn shortly.

One other odd thing to note is that our country was founded by those who were escaping the very thing that these NAR people want to evoke; the marriage of the Catholic Church to the British and other European governments, where the Pope actually ruled along side.  History shows how this powerful church persecuted those who would not bow to their system and worship.  "Religious" man in control of the world is not a good thing.

What can be seen with these guys is that they try to take God's word and twist it to fit their own desires and agendas.

Barton's Wrong Understanding Of Christianity.

I found there were at least two times that Barton showed that he does not have a grasp of what it means to be righteous, and what God's statements of a "righteous" nation is.  Note what He says below on two separate videos a number of years apart.  The one on the left is from a video on Copeland's TV show nine years ago that an anti-Christian organization put up.  The one on the right comes from a statement on the Facebook site of the California Renewal Project in 2018.

barton righeousness Copeland vid   barton righteouness Calif renewal

If Christians "want our land to be bless", Barton said, "it won't be blessed without righteousness.  And if you want righteousness, it comes from the judges"  "And since, under our system of government, federal judges must be confirmed by the Senate, Christians must be dedicated to electing members of the Senate who will only confirm judges that will follow God's Rules.

 If you want righteousness in the land, you’d better get involved and you’d better look at the Senate races in your state and you’d better figure out which of these persons running for Senate is going to be the best on judges,” Barton said, “because if you want God to restore the land, you gotta start with judges”:

https://www.rightwingwatch.org/post/barton-%e2%80%8bgods-blessing-on-america-depends-on-electing-senators-who-will-confirm-godly-judges/
 

“Bible tells us in Proverbs 14:34 that righteousness exalts a nation that the sins of a nation are a reproach to many people.  How do you get righteousness?  Through righteous policy.  How do you get righteous policy? By electing righteous leaders.  How do you get righteous leaders?  By Christians going out and voting for those leaders…”

https://www.facebook.com/CaliforniaRenewalProject/videos/how-do-you-get-righteousness-in-a-nation/636416950093478/

If I were to ask Paul, "How do you get righteousness?", what would his response be?  Would it be through the agency of man, a judge, or by the Spirit through the blood of Jesus and faith in Him?  Lets see;

20 Now then, we are ambassadors for Christ, as though God were pleading through us: we implore you on Christ’s behalf, be reconciled to God. 21 For He made Him who knew no sin to be sin for us, that we might become the righteousness of God in Him. 2 Corinthians 5:20-21

But when the kindness and the love of God our Savior toward man appeared, not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to His mercy He saved us, through the washing of regeneration and renewing of the Holy Spirit, whom He poured out on us abundantly through Jesus Christ our Savior, that having been justified by His grace we should become heirs according to the hope of eternal life. Titus 3:4-6

21 But now the righteousness of God apart from the law is revealed, being witnessed by the Law and the Prophets, 22 even the righteousness of God, through faith in Jesus Christ, to all and on all who believe. For there is no difference; 23 for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, 24 being justified freely by His grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus, 25 whom God set forth as a propitiation by His blood, through faith, to demonstrate His righteousness, because in His forbearance God had passed over the sins that were previously committed, 26 to demonstrate at the present time His righteousness, that He might be just and the justifier of the one who has faith in Jesus.  Romans 3:21-26

And there are many more.

So then, Barton, as well as others in the NAR, misuse Proverbs 14:34 (and others) in that he tries to use it to say righteousness of a nation comes through electing righteous government officials, who will make righteous laws to make people obedient to God.  Whereas, God's word says that the righteous which exalts a nation comes as a result of individuals turning to Jesus and receiving righteousness by having faith in Him, not in man and his laws.

In Matthew 7 Jesus is warning the disciples of the coming false prophets and that they would disguise themselves as people of God.  He also said this of them,

21 Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven. 22 Many will say to Me in that day, ‘Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?’ 23 And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!’

24 “Therefore whoever hears these sayings of Mine, and does them, I will liken him to a wise man who built his house on the rock: 25 and the rain descended, the floods came, and the winds blew and beat on that house; and it did not fall, for it was founded on the rock.

26 “But everyone who hears these sayings of Mine, and does not do them, will be like a foolish man who built his house on the sand: 27 and the rain descended, the floods came, and the winds blew and beat on that house; and it fell. And great was its fall.  Matthew 7:21-27

There is a great hymn written in 1797 by an Eward Mott that simplifies this within verse 1 and verse 5.  It goes,

My hope is built on nothing less,
Than Jesus Christ and righteousness.
I dare not trust the sweetest frame,
But wholly lean on Jesus name.

On Christ the solid Rock I stand,
All other ground is sinking sand,
All other ground is sinking sand.

When He shall come with trumpet sound,
Oh, may I then in Him be found;
In Him, my righteousness, alone,
Faultless to stand before the throne.

Jesus chastised the Pharisees when he and his disciples were accused of not conforming to some of the laws.

He answered and said to them, “Well did Isaiah prophesy of you hypocrites, as it is written:

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‘This people honors Me with their lips,
But their heart is far from Me.
And in vain they worship Me,
Teaching as doctrines the commandments of men.’  Mark 7:6-7

And this is what the Constitution is; it is a doctrine of man.  It is not a Biblical document as Barton, Green, and others would profess.  Jesus wants an individual' heart, not just lip service that is not a genuine love for him. Now since Barton has all this influence upon people in the church and government officials, but professes things not Biblically sound, it is a dangerous thing that people do not test the spirits.  These are teaching their documents as doctrines.

And here is an observation concerning the Biblical Citizenship classes...

There is nothing wrong with learning the Constitution.  But there are those government associated NAR persons who say these classes should be mandatory.  Congress woman Lauren Boebert stated she wants these classes mandatory in schools https://occidentaldissent.com/2022/08/03/lauren-boebert-calls-for-biblical-citizenship-training-in-public-schools/

But here is the thing.  Haven't we noticed that this current federal Administration from the President on down to all the three lettered agencies do not care if they do things against the Constitution?  And it's not just them, look at some of the State, and local governments?  That's the trend since Covid.  You can learn all and know all of your rights, but when you have a government that is operating outside of what is American, you have only the rights they want you to have for their agendas.  They violate rights every day and get away with it.

The Apostle Paul did something that was not too smart the last time he was arrested.  He was not only a Jew, but he was also a Roman citizen.  And Roman citizens had rights according to Roman law.  So in Acts 25 we see him faced with accusations of things he did not do by the Jews, before the Roman Governor, Felix.  Paul, denying any wrong doing, gave his defense to Felix.  Felix adjourned the hearing and actually allowed Paul to preach the gospel to him.

Paul was a free-to-roam prisoner for two years (to please the Jews) then Felix was replaced by Festus.  Festus started the hearing again and asked Paul if he would be willing to go to Jerusalem and have his trial before Festus and the Jews.  This did not set well with Paul believing it would be a kangaroo court.  So he says

10 So Paul said, “I stand at Caesar’s judgment seat, where I ought to be judged. To the Jews I have done no wrong, as you very well know. 11 For if I am an offender, or have committed anything deserving of death, I do not object to dying; but if there is nothing in these things of which these men accuse me, no one can deliver me to them. I appeal to Caesar.”  Acts 25:10-11

That was probably Paul's poorest decision as a Christian he made; appealing to the government instead of God!  So he is sent to King Agrippa for further proceedings where Paul gave his defense to Agrippa and Festus.  Agrippa could not find that Paul did anything, and he would have let him go except....

32 Then Agrippa said to Festus, “This man might have been set free if he had not appealed to Caesar. Acts 26:32

So, Paul was sent to Rome to eventually be killed.  However he did a lot of preaching along the way, and in Rome.

So we can appeal to the Constitution all we want.  If we have corrupt leaders, it won't matter.  It doesn't matter now when they can get away with it.   The NAR ideology is that they are waiting for President Trump to win again and save the country and make it "Christian".  For sure, it was better with Trump than it is now; by a long way.  However, it is better to trust in God rather in the institutions of man.  Because there is something amiss with this strange ideology of the NAR as we will later see.

Were America's Founding Fathers Christian?  Was America Founded By Goverment As A Christian Nation As Barton & Others Say?

Most of the "religious" Patriot Movement and the NAR in general, declare that America was founded as a "Christian" nation by "Christian" government leaders, such as Thomas Jefferson, George Washington, ect.  But again, is this true?

David Barton wrote a book in 2012 called, "The Jefferson Lies: The Myths You've Always Believed".  It is supposed to be a historical account of Jefferson.  However, the publisher, Thomas Nelson, pulled the book after becoming aware of a lot of inaccuracies in it.  One article (of many) said in part,

"The publishing company says it's ceasing publication because it found that "basic truths just were not there.

"Since its initial publication, historians have debunked and raised concerns about numerous claims in Barton's book. In it, Barton calls Jefferson a "conventional Christian," claims the founding father started church services at the Capitol, and even though he owned more than 200 slaves, says Jefferson was a civil rights visionary.

"Mr. Barton is presenting a Jefferson that modern-day evangelicals could love and identify with," Warren Throckmorton, a professor at the evangelical Grove City College, told
Hagerty. "The problem with that is, it's not a whole Jefferson; it's not getting him right."
https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2012/08/09/158510648/publisher-pulls-controversial-thomas-jefferson-book-citing-loss-of-confidence

Now this shows some ear tickling. Now I am not a fan of NPR, nor Warren Throckmorton, but there are a number of other historians, including Christians, that have debunked the contents of this book also.

Now I have not read this book but have only read the criticisms of those areas where these historians show Barton's untruthfulness and/or leaving out information that would show a different scenario or declaration with a different story.

There is an interesting article by Roger Oakland from many years ago about the deception of David Barton with Calvary Chapel's around 2011.  Roger used to be associated with Calvary Costa Mesa and has a research ministry called "Understanding The Times". In this article he said this about David Barton,

After Understand the Times uncovered David Barton’s agenda in a News Alert posted May 12, 2011, some contacted us and asked the question: why would David Barton attempt to convince Calvary Chapel church audiences that America’s Founding Fathers were Christians by appearing to manipulate the words of the Founding Father documents? What would be the motive behind him doing this?

Some also asked, could the motive be for money, notoriety, popularity, making people look foolish, or something else? You would think that Barton would have realized that someone would eventually realize that the words of the documents he was using were manipulated and that he would eventually get caught. Or maybe Barton really believed he could get away with this manipulation. Or, maybe his reasoning was based on something completely different. Was it possible that he was developing a sinister method for deception that worked by appealing to the sinful heart of man?  As Jeremiah 17:9 states: “The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?” http://www.understandthetimes.org/commentary/c92.shtml

In another article Oakland said,

Why would God want American Christians to be proud about anything when pride brings deception?

Why are people like David Barton allowed into churches and manipulate Founding Father documents in order to convince “proud” people that Founding Fathers were great men of God and that Jefferson’s “Wee Little Book” is a good thing?

Who sent this guy? Who does he work for?

http://www.understandthetimes.org/commentary/c94.shtml

Rodger Oakland was rather ignored by those who should have listened to him.

Now I had not ever heard of Barton, Green, nor this Patriot Movement until August of 2023.  But I had done my own research in 2015 on the subject of the United States being founded on Christianity.

 At that time I wrote an article titled, "In God We Trust?  The Pagan Gods of Washington DC" based upon this research.  I wrote it after continually hearing that the United States was founded as a Christian nation by Christian people, but when looking at just the pagan statues, architecture, imagery,  and other artwork that define D.C., I started to doubt these assertions.  So I began to research, looking into the documents written by some of these founding fathers.  I found that these pillars of the founding fathers, had, as Paul said, "A form of godliness", but were not Christians.  Let me disappoint many of you here; but these are truths.  And we should not base some belief system that is being professed by Barton and other NAR leaders, as a foundation for following their Patriotic Movement on a foundations of things not true.  Being patriotic is a good thing; just not with this.

Let's look at Jefferson.  I found a number of documents in some of the government and historical archives concerning Jefferson and others.  Some of these documents are letters from Jefferson to other government officials / family, and letters back to him.  Very revealing.

The Truth About Jefferson And Early America

Jefferson
Thomas Jefferson
 
Alexand smyth
Alexander Smyth

Jefferson had a friend by the name of Alexander Smyth.  Smyth was a General, Congressman, and Virginia lawyer.  He was well educated and... religious.

In January 14th of 1825 Smyth sent a letter to Jefferson asking him to critique a commentary on the book of Revelation.  Sounds very religious, no?  Jefferson replied to Smyth on January 18, 1825 to Smyths request and said this;

Dear Sir

I have duly received 4 proof sheets of your explanation of the Apocalypse, with your letters of Dec. 29. and Jan. 8. in the last of which you request that, so soon as I shall be of opinion that the explanation you have given is correct, I would express it in a letter to you.

from this you must be so good as to excuse me, because I make it an invariable rule to decline ever giving opinions on new publications in any case whatever, no man on earth has less taste or talent for criticism than myself, and least and last of all should I undertake to criticise works on the Apocalypse.

it is between 50. and 60. years since I read it, & I then considered it as merely the ravings of a Maniac, no more worthy, nor capable of explanation than the incoherences of our own nightly dreams...

...and pardon me if I say, with the candor of friendship, that I think your time too valuable, and your understanding of too high an order, to be wasted on these paralogisms. you will percieve, I hope, also that I do not consider them as revelations of the supreme being, whom I would not so far blaspheme as to impute to him a pretension of revelation, couched at the same time in terms which, he would know, were never to be understood by those to whom they were addressed. in the candor of these observations, I hope you will see proofs of the confidence, esteem and respect which I truly entertain for you...  Thomas Jefferson  https://founders.archives.gov/documents/Jefferson/98-01-02-4882

This is not a good start for a "Christian" founding father.  Jefferson placed himself in a very bad spiritual situation with this view of Jesus alone.  Who is Jefferson calling a "maniac" and the book of Revelation "ravings"?  The author of the book, Jesus.  Revelation opens by saying,

The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave Him to show His servants—things which must shortly take place. And He sent and signified it by His angel to His servant John, who bore witness to the word of God, and to the testimony of Jesus Christ, to all things that he saw. Blessed is he who reads and those who hear the words of this prophecy, and keep those things which are written in it; for the time is near.  Rev 1:1-2

So the raving maniac that Jefferson speaks of is Jesus. This book Jefferson says is not worthy of, nor capable of explanation anymore that incoherent dreams are.  He doesn't think it can be understood even though Jesus said there is a blessing for those who read, hear and keep the things that are written in it.  He then tells, Smyth not to waste his time with it, that he doesn't consider it the revelation of "the supreme being.  Jefferson denies Jesus.

Now Jefferson told Smyth that he has a lot of confidence, esteem and respect for Smyth.  But aside from all of this titles and careers; who is Smyth?  Well, Smyth was;

1.  Friend of Jefferson’s

2.  Was military General, Inspector General to acting War Secretary

3.  Congressman for a district in Virginia - Lawyer

4.  An educated man and leader

5.  Was a writer

6. Religious

And in his religiosity, Smyth finished his  commentary on the Book of Revelation and published it in 1825 and titled it "An Explanation of the Apocalypse" (photo below).  But neither the commentary or Smyth are close to being Christian.

Revelation Commentary
Alexander Smyth's Commentary
on Revelation

I read it.  His view?  The Apocalypse already happened during Roman times up to the end of the first century and that the book of Revelation is a fraud.  Smyth said that the Apostle John was a false prophet. He associated Roman leaders to entities in Revelation and even the physical disturbance judgments as allegories for people.

For instance the Lamb / Lion of Judah and Messiah in Revelation was not Jesus, but the Roman Emperor Caracalla.  He was of the worst in Roman history.

Smyth also said that a guy by the name of Albinus, an insurrectionist who declared himself emperor: is the Anti-Christ

I am not going into his really off commentary, but Smyth said at the end of it;

“Let the clergy expunge from the canon of faith a forged book, written in the spirit of insatiable revenge.   Let not a difference of opinion in religion any longer excite discord, or cause division among us. Let us regard with marked disapprobation, those who, with exclusive zeal, inculcate anti-social principles: For belief and unbelief are equally involuntary ; and as the one can deserve no censure, so the other can merit no applause.” Alexander Smyth, An Explanation of the Apocalypse

It seems clear that Smyth did not read, or did not heed the warning at the end of the book of Revelation on adding to or taking away from what is written.  And like Jefferson, denies the deity of Jesus.

But let's continue with Jefferson.

 Letter of Thomas Jefferson to William Short, October 31, 1819

.... As you say of yourself, I TOO AM AN EPICUREAN. I consider the genuine (not the imputed) doctrines of Epicurus as containing every thing rational in moral philosophy which Greece and Rome have left us

I take the liberty of observing that you are not a true disciple of our master Epicurus, in indulging the indolence to which you say you are yielding
https://founders.archives.gov/documents/Jefferson/03-15-02-0141-0001

Short was Jefferson's personal secretary and a diplomat. So, Jefferson thought that the doctrines of this Greek philosopher's doctrine taught everything rational in "moral" philosophy that Greece and Rome left the founding fathers.  Now Jefferson called himself an Epicurean and Epicurus his "master".  This was a Greek / Roman philosophy that had nothing to do with Christianity, but had  a "moral" philosophy.  The Epicureans are mentioned in the book of Acts 17:18  when Paul was in Rome and he was taken to task by the Epicureans and the Stoics for his "new religion" and called him a "babbler".  If Jefferson was an Epicurean, his master was not Jesus.

Among the writings of Jefferson their is a pattern of using "morals" in his speech.  The writing below from a Jefferson historical site notes where this ideal came from;  it is not the Bible.

Thomas Jefferson and Religious Freedom – The Jefferson Monticello

“Thomas Jefferson was always reluctant to reveal his religious beliefs to the public, but at times he would speak to and reflect upon the public dimension of religion. He was raised as an Anglican, but was influenced by English deists such as Bolingbroke and Shaftesbury. Thus in the spirit of the Enlightenment, he made the following recommendation to his nephew Peter Carr in 1787:

"Question with boldness even the existence of a god; because, if there be one, he must more approve the homage of reason, than that of blindfolded fear."

Jefferson to Carr, August 10, 1787, in PTJ, 12:15. Transcription available at Founders Online
https://www.monticello.org/research-education/thomas-jefferson-encyclopedia/thomas-jefferson-and-religious-freedom/

If Jefferson was a Christian, why would he tell his own nephew to even question the existence of God "with boldness".  Then Jefferson gets back to saying that if there is a god, this god must approve of the "homage of reason".  The "Enlightenment" was also called, "The Age of Reason" and this is the source of it.  Jefferson is saying that a god (if there were one) would be in line with the Enlightenment, a god of reason; an anti-Christ philosophy.

Let's continue this thought.

Thomas Jefferson and Religious Freedom – The Jefferson Monticello

 "But it does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are twenty gods, or no god. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg.

 ... Reason and free enquiry are the only effectual agents against error."

Jefferson, Notes on Locke & Shaftesbury, October 11-December 9, 1776, in PTJ, 1:547-48. Transcription available at Founders Online.
https://www.monticello.org/research-education/thomas-jefferson-encyclopedia/thomas-jefferson-and-religious-freedom

So Jefferson has no problem with anyone's religion, belief in a god or no god.  And instead of saying that the Word of God is the only agent against error, he says that "reason and free enquiry" are.  This is, again, out of the Enlightenment.

Now what is interesting about our founders interest in the Enlightenment is something that "Q" (of the old "QAnon" statements) said about this in his database of statements concerning the then President Trump.

We Are in the Middle of Another Enlightenment Approaching the Precipice

How does POTUS shift narrative?
(New) Age of Enlightenment.

So, according to "Q", the United States was in the middle another Enlightenment and that Trump needed to shift the narrative to this.  Of course this means going back to the time of our founders and their ideals. Q calls this shift in terms of a "New Age of Enlightenment".  And much of this stuff is no different than that of the New Age philosophies and ideals.

Having covered his views on God, lets move on to Jefferson's view of Christianity and Jesus

1803 April 21. (Jefferson to Benjamin Rush).

"[T]o the corruptions of Christianity, I am indeed opposed; but not to the genuine precepts of Jesus himself. I am a Christian, in the only sense in which he wished any one to be; sincerely attached to his doctrines, in preference to all others; ascribing to himself every human excellence, & believing he never claimed any other.“ https://www.monticello.org/research-education/thomas-jefferson-encyclopedia/jeffersons-religious-beliefs

So Jefferson said that he just preferred the "doctrines" of Jesus over all other doctrines of other religions because Jesus ascribed himself to every "human excellence".  But he says Jesus did not claim any other excellence, just the human one.  To Jefferson Jesus was a moral and mortal man, but not the son of God, not God.  Yet he considers himself a Christian because he ascribes to his doctrines over others.  Jefferson's view of Christianity.

So how did this "Christian" really view Jesus?  Let's continue

1823 April 11. (Jefferson to John Adams)

and the day will come when the mystical generation of Jesus, by the supreme being as his father in the womb of a virgin will be classed with the fable of the generation of Minerva in the brain of Jupiter.

But we may hope that the dawn of reason and freedom of thought in these United States will do away all this artificial scaffolding, and restore to us the primitive and genuine doctrines of this the most venerated reformer of human errors."
https://www.monticello.org/research-education/thomas-jefferson-encyclopedia/jeffersons-religious-beliefs

So to Jefferson, Jesus was not born of a virgin and classed it as a Roman religious fable of the goddess Minerva growing out of the brain of her father Jupiter.  And again Jefferson refers back to the Enlightenment, where "reason" in the United States "will do away" with the Biblical truth in favor of the Enlightenment philosophies.  And what did Jefferson mean by restoring the U.S. to the primitive "genuine doctrines" of Jesus?

jefferson bible
The Life & Morals of Jesus of Nazereth

Thomas Jefferson to John Adams October 12, 1813

…we must reduce our volume to the simple evangelists, select, even from them, the very words only of Jesus…

…and expressing unintelligibly for others what they had not understood themselves. there will be found remaining the most sublime and benevolent code of morals which has ever been offered to man.

I have performed this operation for my own use, by cutting verse by verse out of the printed book, and arranging, the matter which is evidently his, and which is as easily distinguishable as diamonds in a dunghill

So Jefferson's view of Christianity and that of Jesus is that it is only the expressed words of Jesus that were important; but the rest were a "dunghill".  So, as Jefferson says here he actually cut just the words that Jesus spoke out of (actually 4) translations of the Bible and pasted them in his own printed book.  He said the results of cutting out everything else left a "benevolent code of morals", the best, that has been offered to man.

So what did he mean by this?  Again we go back to the word "morals".  And if we look at the statements of the NAR's takeover, especially the words of Barton, it is them making the U.S. a "moral" society.  This is what Jefferson intended.  What did Jefferson do with this book?  He called it "The "Life and Morals of Jesus of Nazareth Extracted Textually From the Gospels"  He intended it for himself, but it was published after he died. It is known today as "The Jefferson Bible".  It is not a Bible.

In the Jefferson Bible, Thomas Jefferson went further and dropped any passages dealing with miracles, visitations of angels, and the resurrection of Jesus after his death, as he tried to extract the practical Christian moral code of the New Testament. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_of_Enlightenment

See also an article at https://www.history.com/news/thomas-jefferson-bible-religious-beliefs

Jefferson rejected the miracles of Jesus, the resurrection, virgin birth ;  anything that had to do with Jesus being God, anything supernatural;  just that he was a moral man.  What does the word of God say of such a person?

2 Timothy 3:5
having a form of godliness but denying its power. And from such people turn away!

Matthew 10:32-33
32 
“Therefore whoever confesses Me before men, him I will also confess before My Father who is in heaven. 33 But whoever denies Me before men, him I will also deny before My Father who is in heaven

1 John 2:22-23
22 Who is a liar but he who denies that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist who denies the Father and the Son. 23 Whoever denies the Son does not have the Father either; he who acknowledges the Son has the Father also.

Founders Were Deists

"Deism" is defined by Britannica as
In general, Deism refers to what can be called natural religion, the acceptance of a certain body of religious knowledge that is inborn in every person or that can be acquired by the use of reason and the rejection of religious knowledge when it is acquired through either revelation or the teaching of any church. https://www.britannica.com/topic/Deism

Now I have seen Barton say that Jefferson was not a Deist.  True?  Let's see.  In an article in Britannica called "The Founding Fathers, Deism, and Christianity", it talked about three different type of "Deists" among the founding fathers, of which Jefferson and Washington were part of. Here are a couple of excerpts from the article.

Founders who fall into the category of Christian Deists include Washington (whose dedication to Christianity was clear in his own mind), John Adams, and, with some qualifications, Thomas Jefferson. Jefferson was more influenced by the reason-centred Enlightenment than either Adams or Washington....

...Although orthodox Christians participated at every stage of the new republic, Deism influenced a majority of the Founders. The movement opposed barriers to moral improvement and to social justice. It stood for rational inquiry, for skepticism about dogma and mystery, and for religious toleration. Many of its adherents advocated universal education, freedom of the press, and separation of church and state. If the nation owes much to the Judeo-Christian tradition, it is also indebted to Deism, a movement of reason and equality that influenced the Founding Fathers to embrace liberal political ideals remarkable for their time."
 https://www.britannica.com/topic/The-Founding-Fathers-Deism-and-Christianity-1272214

"Deism" and "Christianity" are not compatible.  Nor would it be close to correct to say this nation was founded by Christians on Christianity.  Barton talks very fast and has the appearance of really knowing history.  However, he is a slick talker that is known to slight the facts in one direction.

What I also discovered is that Jefferson was opposed to the government having any religion being involved with running this new country.  Nor did he agree with any one religion's persons speaking at elementary schools, citing others being jealous of the other.  Jefferson would not have approved of the Mountain of Government, nor the Mountain of Education being taken over by any religion.  He did not want religion involved in running the government.  Remember, most of the first peoples to arrive in the countries were fleeing that same system in England. For more on this see my videos tilted "The High Place of Washington D.C Part 3" which will be published soon.

So who, or what were Jefferson and some of his contemporaries into? Jefferson reveals more of his anti-Christ tendencies here in letters to John Adams in referring to lauding Roman and Greek gods and a philosopher.  In it Jefferson was comparing writings of Christianity, Judaism, and Greek/Romans.  This is part of the same letter in which he called the writings of Jesus only; "diamonds in dunghills".

Thomas Jefferson to John Adams October 12, 1813

I acknowledge all the merit of the hymn of Cleanthes to Jupiter, which you ascribe to it. it is as highly sublime as a chaste & correct imagination can permit itself to go. yet in the contemplation of a being so superlative, the hyperbolic flights of the Psalmist may often be followed with approbation, even with rapture; and I have no hesitation in giving him the palm over all the Hymnists of every language,…

Thomas Jefferson to John Adams October 4, 1813

“I believe Cleanthes to be as good a Christian as Priestley.”

Now who is this "Cleanthes" who Jefferson said is a "Psalmist", and a good a Christian as "Priestly".  First, Joseph Priestly was a British theologian, natural philosopher, political theorist, and chemist.  He was also a friend of Jefferson after he migrated to America.  Now Cleanthes was a Greek Stoic philosopher around 300 BC.  It is said of him;

Cleanthes regarded the Sun as being divine: because the Sun sustains all living things, it resembled the divine fire which (in Stoic physics) animated all living beings, hence it too must be part of the vivifying fire or aether of the universe. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cleanthes

And who is the Greek and Roman Sun god?  Apollo.  In Revelation he is called "Apollyon" and "the Destroyer".  In Revelation 9 he is the king of the demonic locusts released from the bottomless pit.  He is, the anti-Christ.  Apollo's father is Zeus (Greek), Jupiter (Roman); Satan.

So Jefferson calls this hymn to Jupiter / Zeus, something that has merit, sublime and chaste as a correct imagination.  Jefferson then calls "this being" (Jupiter) "superlative".  Jefferson and Adams basically give this pagan a thumbs up among their religious attractions and over "all the Hymnists".  This hymn is long but it praises Zeus / Jupiter, and exhorts people to follow him.  And Jefferson calls it the best?  Wonder what God would say about a pagan Psalmist being best over his servants? It can be read at https://www.postost.net/2023/02/cleanthes-hymn-zeus-and-renewal-monotheism

But will show a short prayer that Cleanthes prayed to Zeus as seen below

Lead me, Zeus, and you too, Destiny,
To wherever your decrees have assigned me.
I follow readily, but if I choose not,
Wretched though I am, I must follow still.
Fate guides the willing, but drags the unwilling

"Fate" and "Destiny" are two gods referred to in the Bible that Israel chose over God.

But you are those who forsake the Lord
who forget my holy mountain
Who prepare a table for Gad (Babylonian god of Fate /Fortune - Zeus/Jupiter)
Who furnish a drink offering for Meni ( god of Destiny)  Isaiah 65:11

What are these men, who are wrongly thought of as Christians doing venerating the teachers and gods of the Greeks and Romans?  What does this say about Barton and Green, and the NAR as a whole?  Why are churches spiraling down to listening to those who profess these false doctrines of demons?

America As A Utopia: The Endgame of the Founding Fathers

So when I did my initial research in 2015 and saw that these of the founders were not Christians, but were into the Enlightenment, it became apparent, at least to me, that after looking at the prominent icons of Washington D.C., these founders did venerate the Roman and Greek gods.   The very First Commandment says,

“You shall have no other gods before Me.

“You shall not make for yourself a carved image—any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth; you shall not bow down to them nor [b]serve them. For I, the Lord your God, am a jealous God, visiting[c] the iniquity of the fathers upon the children to the third and fourth generations of those who hate Me, but showing mercy to thousands, to those who love Me and keep My commandments.  Exodus 20:3-6

Washington D.C. shows just the opposite of these commandments.  It is full of Roman, Greek, and gods of other religions.  It hardly looks Christian, just like the founders hardly look Christian but are made to be so.  Just one building shows this; the Capitol.

Built after a pagan temple designed by Jefferson, it has a goddess on top of the dome (Minerva [Roman] / Athena [Greek]) who is the goddess of war.  On the inside on the ceiling of the dome is a large painting of Washington as god Zeus (father of Athena) rising into the heavens as god, (Satan's wish) surrounded by his family of gods.  You can go to my research on this for the rest of the story at https://cornerstoneresearchministry.com/InGodWeTrust.pdf

A Glimpse Of The Culture Around 1776

But let's look at some of what was going on in the culture around 1776 when the United States of America started it's beginning that might shed light on all these gods and goddesses in D.C.

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Massachusetts Centinal January 16, 1788

The photo to the left is a page out of a January 16, 1788 newspaper called The Massachusetts Centinel depicting the status of the states ratifying the Constitution.  It is the copy we read that indicates the probable mindset of the people of this new country back in 1788.  It reads;

Redeunt Saturnia Regna (means "The Return of the Age of Saturn)

The Federal Edifice (means a "magnificent structure")

Eleven stars, in quick succession rise-

Eleven Columns strike our wond’ring eyes,

Soon o’er the whole, shall swell the beauteous dome (Capitol)

Columbia’s (a goddess) boast –and Freedom’s (goddess Minerva) hallowed home. (Capitol)

Here shall the arts in glorious splendor shine!

And agriculture (goddess Ceres / Demeter) give her shores divine!

Commerce ( the god Mercury / Hermes) refin’d dispense us more than gold,

And this new world, teach wisdom to the old-

Religion here shall fix her blest abode,

Array’d in mildness, like its parent God! (Zeus / Jupiter is parent of the afore gods)

Justice and law, shall endless peace maintain (A Utopian society)

And the “saturnian age,” return again. (the Age of Saturn to return)

The Age of Saturn is also called "The Golden age of Saturn".  It was a Utopian age before the flood and it was ruled by the god Saturn.  The strange thing about Saturn is that this planet was considered to be the Sun at one time because of it's brightness.  There was a festival around the December solstice to honor the birth of the sun.  It was a time of peace and harmony.

So the age of the sun god was desired in the early development of America, and they expected this age to return as this old prophetical poem declared.  I didn't see any reference to America being a Christian nation, but one of moral caused peace as a result of "Justice and law".  It is interesting that this is Barton's solution too; righteous judges brings a righteous nation.

This old article is telling.  This media outlet is saying that the ratification of the Constitution could bring in "the return of the Age of Saturn" and create this peaceful utopian society.  These names (Columbia, Freedom, Agriculture, Commerce,  in this article refer to Roman / Greek gods or goddess, as does the Saturnian age.  It is Utopian as it says, "Justice and law, shall endless peach maintain, and the Saturnian age return again"

The last two lines of this poetic article are from a prophetical writing by a Roman poet by the name of Virgil.  He made a prophetic writing that this age of Saturn would return and the last two lines of the newspaper article are from it.  The poem says,

Now the last age by Cumae's Sibyl sung
Has come and gone, and the majestic roll
Of circling centuries begins anew:
Justice returns, returns old Saturn's reign
With a new breed of men sent down from heaven.

Only do thou, at the boy's birth in whom
The iron shall cease, the golden race arise
Befriend him, chaste Lucina; tis thine own
Apollo reigns.

And in thy consulate,
This glorious age, O Pollio, shall begin,
And the months enter on their mighty march.
Under thy guidance, whatso tracks remain
Of our old wickedness, once done away,
Shall free the earth from never-ceasing fear.

He shall receive the life of gods, and see
Heroes with gods commingling, and himself
Be seen of them, and with his father's worth
Reign o'er a world at peace....
Excerpt from Virgil's Eclogue IV

 

Note that it says in this age that a new breed of men will be sent down from heaven, and that there will be a golden race that will arise and be ruled under the god, Apollo.  This Apollo is a child of "Jove" (Jupiter / Zeus = Satan)  Again, the anti-Christ who is Apollo, the Sun God, among other titles.

And as seen prior, Theosophy has this same scenario with the return of the "Golden Age" with the coming of their "Messiah" and world leader.  Their "new breed" coming down from heaven are the Ascended Masters.

It is interesting that Jesus said the last days would be like as the Days of Noah.  In a previous article I discussed this as a time that the demonic angels came to earth and had sex with human who conceived a race of giants referred to as "men of renown"  It is interesting that this prophetical poem says that Apollo will receive the life of gods and see "Heros" (men of renown?) commingling with the gods (Genesis 6:1-5)

And we should not ignore Virgil saying that this Justice will return with a "new breed" sent from heaven.  At this we must look at the declarations of the NAR as to what they say, as they also refer to a "new breed", and that they are this powerful "Joel's Army" (of demons, but they ignore it).  Look at what NAR prophet, the late Bob Jones says of them in an audio with Mike Bickle of the International House of Prayer (IHOP).

“For they are the best of all the generations that have ever been upon the face of the earth. And best of all generations are those elected seeds that will glorify Christ in the last days…. “They will move into things of the supernatural that no one has ever moved in before…. They’ll move in the power that Christ did. Every sign and wonder that’s ever been will be many times in the last days.

They themselves will be that generation that’s raised up to put death itself underneath their feet and to glorify Christ in every way.… the Lord Jesus is worthy to be lifted up by a Church that has reached the full maturity of the God-man! (p. 146, Vengeance Is Ours, quoting Bob Jones, Visions and Revelations, 1988, audio tape with Mike Bickle.)

However, Jesus warned us of such as these that would arise in the last days.  As part of the signs of the last days Jesus said,

23 “Then if anyone says to you, ‘Look, here is the Christ!’ or ‘There!’ do not believe it. 24 For false christs and false prophets will rise and show great signs and wonders to deceive, if possible, even the elect. 25 See, I have told you beforehand."  Matthew 24:23-25

Revelation speaks of the false prophet of the anti-Christ who performs signs during the Tribulation and by these signs deceives the "whole world" as in "WHOLE" (Revelation 13:11-18) In addition Revelation 16:13-14 tells us that there will be three demons coming out of the mouth of; Satan, the anti-Christ, and the false prophet in order to perform miracles that will entice the leaders of the earth and the whole world to gather all to the battle of Armageddon.

 

The Founders View Of This Prophetic Poem And The "Return To The Age of Saturn

John Adams lamenting to Jefferson said,

"John Adams to Thomas Jefferson in 1825

"I look back with rapture to those golden days when Virginia and Massachusetts lived and acted together like a band of brothers and I hope it will not be long before they may say redeunt saturnia regna when I hope the world will hear no more of Hartford Convention or Virginian Armories." Source: https://founders.archives.gov/documents/Jefferson/98-01-02-4998

Adams said he longed for the time when this age of Saturnia would return.

And again this Utopian discourse shows up with another letter to Jefferson by a South American General who had joined in with America in it's revolution.  de Miranda quoted an excerpt from Virgil's poem also lamenting that their utopian society did not evolve.

From Francisco de Miranda to Thomas Jefferson January 22, 1806

If ever the happy prediction which you have pronounced, on the future destiny of our dear Columbia, is to be accomplished in our day,—may Providence grant that it may be under your auspices, and by the generous efforts of her own children! We shall then in some sort behold the revival of that age the return of which the Roman bard invoked in favour of the human race:

The last great age foretold by sacred rhymes,

Renews its finish’d course; Saturnian times,

Roll round again, and mighty years began,

From this first orb, in radiant circles ran.

virg. Ed. IV.

With the highest consideration and profound respect, I am, Mr. President, your very humble and very obedient servant.

(Signed) Fran: de Miranda." Source: https://founders.archives.gov/documents/Jefferson/99-01-02-3083

Of course the rest of the poem puts the god Apollo (Apollyon in Revelation) in charge of the world. How interesting it is that Jefferson himself predicted and pronounce the revival of the return of the utopian age of Saturn under the rule of Apollo; not of God.  But it was not to happen in the early days of America.  However, it is the NAR that is attempting to bring about this utopian time of "justice" and their "new breed" of their "dread champions" to accomplish this with their Seven Mountain Mandate takeover of the culture in these last days.

This is why that prayer of Theosophy that Michael Flynn is so interesting.  Those of that religion are also looking forward to the coming of a former "Golden Age" with the "world teacher" will rule.

The New Apostolic Reformation In True Biblical Prophesy

As I noted in Part 2, the former of the NAR, C Peter Wagner, did not believe in the Rapture, but instead he believed in a coming "Great Awakening".  Yet it is still interesting that some of these NAR people do believe in some sort of Rapture.  But Wagner believed the Church will have to go through the Tribulation period.  However, I believe that the Word of God is consistent in putting for the prophetical doctrine that the true Church will not be here in the Tribulation (see my research on this, "The Sudden Departure of Believers: The Rapture")

Now instead of a true Church of believers being here during the Tribulation, prophecy shows us that their will be a false church which is referred to as, "The Whore of Babylon". 

Revelation 3:7-13 says of the Church of Philadelphia, the only group of believers that is spared this horrid time on the earth;

“And to the angel of the church in Philadelphia write,

‘These things says He who is holy, He who is true, “He who has the key of David, He who opens and no one shuts, and shuts and no one opens”: 

“I know your works. See, I have set before you an open door, and no one can shut it; for you have a little strength (dynamis = power as in ability for miracles) have kept My word, and have not denied My name (like Thomas Jefferson and other Deists did)

Indeed I will make those of the synagogue of Satan, who say they are Jews and are not, but lie—indeed I will make them come and worship before your feet, and to know that I have loved you. 10 Because you have kept My command to persevere, I also will keep you from the hour of trial which shall come upon the whole world, to test those who dwell on the earth.

11 Behold, I am coming quickly! Hold fast what you have, that no one may take your crown. 12 He who overcomes, I will make him a pillar in the temple of My God, and he shall go out no more. I will write on him the name of My God and the name of the city of My God, the New Jerusalem, which comes down out of heaven from My God. And I will write on him My new name.

13 “He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches.”  Revelation 3:7-13

This church had just a "little" power in ability to perform miracles, but God had put an "open door" before them.  This church doesn't seem to fit the churches of the NAR who are continually attempting to display "signs and wonders" of various sorts, even to weirdness as we have seen. This church of Philadelphia is a church that has kept the Word of God in truth.  They did not deny the name of Jesus as did Thomas Jefferson and denied the virgin birth of Jesus, that He is the Son of God, and that he performed miracles.  Jesus also said that because this church was steadfast, was patient, and held their course to hold fast, Jesus would keep this church from the "hour of trial", the Tribulation.  Jesus said that it will come upon the WHOLE earth.  But Jesus said he had put before these people "an open door, and no one can shut it."

If it is the whole earth involved in the Tribulation, then this church must be not on the earth!  Revelation 4 reveals this.  For Jesus told John,

After these things I looked, and behold, a door standing open in heaven. And the first voice which I heard was like a trumpet speaking with me, saying, “Come up here, and I will show you things which must take place after this.” Revelation 4:1

This church went up and through this open door that Jesus put before it.  Then, this one church out of the seven, is in heaven, and Jesus shows John what must take place after this church is removed from the earth.

What about the other five churches? Each one has different spiritual issues that, if not repented of, would bring devastating results for those who did not repent of the things Jesus told them. Perhaps those who do repent will fall in with those who are part of the Philadelphia church?  The rest appear to be headed into the Tribulation.

So what does prophecy tell us about the Tribulation and any church in it during this coming time?

 

A False Ecumenical Church (spirituality) Rules In The Tribulation

The faithful Church, now gone from the face of the earth, is now set aside for the false church as seen in Revelation 17.  Jesus calls this unfaithful church, "The Mother of Harlots and of Abominations of the Earth" and "the great harlot".  This church is referred to as "The Whore of Babylon".  It is an apostate church; a bride that has left her true God and husband to go after another.  Revelation 17 tells us this is an ecumenical church, a One World, religious system, a system of unified religions; not a church unified by faith in Jesus alone.

The Leaders of the Governments of the Earth Participate With It

This harlot church associates itself with the anti-Christ, the World Leader, (Revelation 17:3-5) in that she is seen by John riding on the "Beast", the anti-Christ.  This false church "rides the beast" and is supported by him.

Revelation tells us this unified system has control over the world (Revelation 17:1-2, 15) and that the leaders of the earth were involved with this church and became attached to it as seen, "with whom the kings of the earth committed fornication".  This system will dominate the world during the Tribulation....for only a time...

Now if we look at the plan and workings of the NAR, they look more to be this apostate ecumenical religious system and power.  Like the NAR Government "sphere", the leaders of the world have joined in with the religious beliefs of the harlot in Revelation.  The NAR has been sucking in government officials in the U.S. for a long time as we have seen;  even former President Trump, who was surrounded by NAR religious leaders.  So as the NAR has been working on the government part of the Seven Mountains; this church in Revelation has managed to complete it.  The kings of the earth have joined it.

Michael Flynn comes up again with this kind of talk of the need for one religion in America.  He said

“If we are going to have one nation under God, which we must, we have to have one religion. One nation under God, and one religion under God.”  Michael Flynn November 13, 2021 Re-Awaken America conference. https://americanfaith.com/michael-flynn-us-should-have-one-religion-under-god/

The Business World Is Part Of It

It is a religious system that has appealed not just to the kings of the earth, but influenced the world as a whole with it's deceptions and idolatry as said in verse 2  "and the inhabitants of the earth were made drunk with the wine of her fornication.” vs 2.  What about the "Business" sphere?  Revelation 18:23 tells us that the "merchants" will be the great men of the earth because they too have fallen for the wares of this harlot and actually became rich from her (Revelation 18:3).  But they will lose it all (Revelation 18:11)

This harlot church is associated itself with the anti-Christ (Revelation 17:3-5) in that she is seen by John riding on the "Beast", the anti-Christ.  This false church "rides the beast" and is supported by him. This association of this religious system to the anti-Christ would seem to be a natural partnership for the NAR as well.

The NAR's Forced Ideology Fits the Harlot

Jesus said this false church, this harlot is responsible for the murder of the "saints" and the "martyrs for Jesus" (Revelation 17:6).  When we see people like the false prophet Rick Joyner saying that a revolution is coming and that God has "seeded" former military around the U.S. to be leaders of it and we see Matt Shea in his "Biblical Basis For War", saying that those who do not conform to this new religious system will be killed, and they claim to be in charge, then it would seem to make them a possible candidate taking part of the murder of the saints and the martyrs for Jesus.  This is what happened in Europe when Christians would not follow the mandates of the Roman Catholic Church to bow down and worship Mary.  These were martyred.

The saints in Revelation 17 are not the "Church" (which is gone), but those who converted to Christ during the Tribulation and were killed by this false church and their messianic anti-Christ and his "prophet" (Revelation 6:9-11, Revelation 9:11-13, Revelation 13:5-8).  Revelation specifically says that those who do not follow the mandates of the false prophet to worship the beast and his image will be killed (Revelation 13:15-17)

The Signs and Wonders Connection

Paul tells us about his coming of the anti-Christ and gives us an introduction.  He says

The coming of the lawless one is according to the working of Satan, with all power, signs, and lying wonders, 2 Thessalonians 2:9

John says of the false prophet of the anti-Christ  in Revelation 13,

13 He performs great signs, so that he even makes fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men. 14 And he deceives those who dwell on the earth by those signs which he was granted to do in the sight of the beast, telling those who dwell on the earth to make an image to the beast who was wounded by the sword and lived.  Revelation 13:13-4

We see the false prophets of the NAR, who believe they will be ruling the world during this time, saying right now that as pointed out in Part 1, these Apostles / Prophets will develop greater and greater supernatural powers and that the signs and wonders they perform are meant to encourage a massive wave of converts to Christianity (their ideological form).  These supernatural powers are supposed to have the ability to perform mass healings. https://www.gotquestions.org/New-Apostolic-Reformation.html)

NAR false prophet Stacy Campbell said, “The holy Spirit fell on me, and he started to speak to me over and over again, about a generation that would come on the earth that would do signs and wonders that would change society, and society would not change them, and you are a firtsfruits of that generation of nation changers that will release the glory of God in all it’s fullness https://churchwatchcentral.com/2019/08/27/the-super-apostles-hireling-todd-bentley-a-tragic-affair/

(Note: Revelation 14 tells us the 144,000 of the Jews will be the "firstfruits" unto God, not any Gentiles.  Today's believers are referred to as "kind of" a firstfruit as seen in James 1:18 and other places.)

How will this new generation change the society with their signs and wonders and release the glory of God?  The only changed society we see in the future comes as a result of the signs and wonders of the anti-Christ and his false prophet.  Having seen all of these things it is certain that the anti-Christ and this false church will be ruling the first 3.5 years of the Tribulation until the anti-Christ and the government leaders (two mountains) turn against it (Revelation 16:17-8).  So, the only "church" during the tribulation fails to convert the world to their "Christianity", and it's false Messiah that they thought they were doing this for in the "spirit of Elijah", turns against them.

So then we have a dilemma.  How can this "Christian" group of people of the NAR be taking over these "spheres" of the culture when prophecy is explicit that the world and its "spheres" are ruled by the anti-Christ and his temporary false church that he throws away midway into the Tribulation?  If these are ruling the culture, government, business, church, etc during the Tribulation, then are not they in reality this "Harlot" Jesus speaks of?

Is the NAR just another path to Globalism and the desires of our current government and the demon laced World Economic Forum as are the New Age followers?

How could people fall into this?

The Deluding Influence From God

First, as we saw, this is a culture and church today that likes to have it's ears tickled and, as warned would, and is happening, will actually "heap" upon themselves teachers in accordance with their desires.  The desires might make sense, but the solution is wrong.

Then, and this is the real scary warning from Paul;

 The coming of the lawless one is according to the working of Satan, with all power, signs, and lying wonders, 10 and with all unrighteous deception among those who perish, because they did not receive the love of the truth, that they might be saved. 11 And for this reason God will send them strong delusion, that they should believe the lie, 12 that they all may be condemned who did not believe the truth but had pleasure in unrighteousness. " 2 Thessalonians 2:9-12

 

The Cultural Characteristics Of Apollo / Apollyon, The Anti-Christ

Could it be that this "new breed" of the NAR is the "new breed" mentioned in the poem of Virgil about the coming of Apollo?

The attributes of the god Apollo are somewhat telling.

We can see in the many sites of history of Apollo (Apollyon) that he is, first, the Son of Zeus aka Satan and that he was a handsome youth (not some diabolical looking thing)  He is called,

The Sun god
God of the Culture
God of Medicine / Healing
God of Plagues
God of the Arts (music, poetry, dance)
God of Reason
God of Prophecy
God of Divination
God of Universal and Aesthetic Order
God of Harmony, Civil Order and Civil Constitutions (government)
God of "authoritative speech, the one who presides over all manner of speech-acts, including the realms of songmaking in general and poetry in particular." (like would have control over media and the music industry [including "christian"] today)

Apollo was worshiped in connection with aspects of everyday life, such as health and medicine.  His purpose was to reveal to humans the intentions of his father Zeus.  This will be his intentions during the Tribulation too as Apollyon, the anti-Christ.

Sources:
https://mythopedia.com/topics/apollo
https://www.britannica.com/summary/Apollo-Greek-mythology
https://www.worldhistory.org/apollo/

Well it seems to me that this demon possessed person called the anti-Christ rather fits into being in control of the Seven Mountains of the culture as well as the Enlightenment / Age of Reason of our founders.  And it seems like it fits the anti-Christ as seen in Revelation and in Daniel.

 

Just An Observation

A few years back I had the opportunity to tour the Palace of Versailles in France.  It is very opulent.  It was the residence of King Louie XIV.  Louie was called the Sun King and one of the things he was noted for was enforcing a unity of of religion under the Catholic Church.   Louie called himself the Sun King because of his affinity for Apollo, the Sun god.  Louie actually identified himself with this son of Zeus.

Louie also depicted himself as the god Zeus / Jupiter himself after putting down some insurrections as seen in the photo below  Note he has the thunderbolt of Zeus in his right hand, and the eagle, that is commonly associated with Zeus, has another thunderbolt in his claw.

The opulence of this palace was quite evident. The ceilings of the Hall of Mirrors in his palace had paintings of the Greek and Roman gods including Apollo.  The photo below is that room.

 

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King Louie XIV King Louie depicted as the god Jupiter / Zeus
   
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Hall of Mirrors - Palace of Versailles

Now lets travel some 500 years into the future to today.  This affinity for Apollo is still around as we see in the photos below of Trump's New York penthouse home.  The first photo below shows the gold opulence of this apartment along with the ceiling painted with pictures of the Greek gods like Apollo in the likeness of King Louie's palace

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Trump's Penthouse -  Note gold theme and ceiling art

The photos below are of the showings of Apollo on the ceiling and on a painting on the wall above a fireplace of Apollo riding on a chariot to bring light to the world.  This painting is also in the Palace of Versailles .  Note the statues of other Greek gods.  Trump is known to have decorated his penthouse to the design of the era and furnishing of the Palace of Versailles, to include the furniture from that era.

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Apollo bringing light to world - picture above fireplace Apollo riding chariot - penthouse ceiling
   
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Greek goddess Eros statue on table. Trumps Louie XIV furnishings - large painting of Apollo
   

One must ask why Trump, like King Louie XIV, has such an affinity for this son of Zeus / Jupiter, Satan, whom will be the coming world leader; the ant-Christ?  Well could it be that others are hoping in one too; another man savior?  Lets see...

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Wallnau on Jim Bakker show selling his Cyrus/Trump coints

One of the NAR key prophets that we noted a lot was Lance Wallnau.  Wallnau compared Trump to another world leader, the Persian King Cyrus.  Cyrus set Israel free from their 70 year captivity of the Babylonians.  In fact Wallnau, being the businessman that he is, came up with a "Cyrus/Trump" coin he sells for $45.00 (Isaiah "45" prophecy of Cyrus on the back).  He promoted this on the Jim Bakker show (fallen televangelist of Jim and Tammy Bakker fame).

Wallnau called this coin, "A point of contact between you and God".  He said God told him it was a contact.  He said that "God put something in your hand that you have a roll in".  Wallnau said that that God has begun a miracle and we need to keep praying.  This was prior to the 2020 elections.  How idolatrous this was!  Making a coin a "contact point" between you and God is so into the occult.  But, he made money from it.  Worked for him.

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Mike Lindell

But there is one more thing on this, and it comes from another of Trump's NAR supporters, Mike Lindell, the My Pillow guy.  Lindell, who is more of a New Ager like Michael Flynn and a follower of Q (of QAnon fame), wrote the following forward in a book written by a Q follower who calls herself "BethAnon".  Lindell says,

"President Trump is a modern-day Cyrus, and as Kim Clement (false NAR prophet) says, "He has a heart like David.” I have a calling from God to support President Trump. This election is not about politics. It is about good vs. evil. It is about freedom under God or slavery in a godless new world order. We must win and it is going to take all of us Children of God working together, giving it everything we’ve got, to prevail, by God's Almighty Grace, to reelect President Donald John Trump whose name literally meansWorld leader under the Grace of God who excels and triumphs.' That’s pretty clear, isn't it? 

 “President Trump is working to bring a physical peace on planet Earth in preparation for the Spiritual Awakening and manifestation of Peace on Earth in our lifetimes. America First refers to restoring our Republic and maintaining our freedoms so our brothers and sisters from all over the world can do the same"
Mike Lindell, Forward to “Love, Joy, Trump:  A Chorus of Prophetic Voices” written by a New Age Q follower BethAnon

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Trump as the "Christ"
 
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Hmm... Trump, the world leader, to bring peace on earth, a utopia, in preparation for some type of "spiritual awakening" so other of their fellow bretheren "from all over the world" can to the same? This does sound like our Founder's Apollo, and the future anti-Christ, and Theosphy's Ascended Masters returning "Golden Age".  And where did this thing of Trump's name have the meaning of a world leader?  In this book to the left.  This author claims that there are two Christs; one, the Son of God (Jesus), the other, the Son of Man (Trump).  Jesus is just a man. Hmm...

And what of this 2021 billboard in Fort Oglethorpe, GA depicting Trump in the same way and adding a Bible verse to it that says, "Unto us a son is given and the government shall be upon his shoulders".  This was quoting Isaiah 9:6.   By doing this, it is actually saying Trump is God.  The rest of these verses says,

And His name will be called
Wonderful, Counselor, Mighty God,
Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.
Of the increase of His government and peace
There will be no end,... Isaiah 9:6-7

There is only one "Wonderful, Counselor, Might God, etc of which there will be no end to HIS government and peace; and that is Jesus / God.  It will not be the Apollo that the Founders were hoping for, but wasn't its time, nor the same false Messiah the NAR is waiting for, nor will it be the same coming one the "world" is waiting for. Any, other than the true Jesus of the Word, is,  Apollyon, the anti-Christ.

It is interesting that while Lindell speaks of the slavery of the "godless new world order", that the NAR desires to form their own "new world order" with the same despot as the others.  It would appear that there are two paths to the same end; the NAR and it's followers just can't see it.  Both desire to make man their savior.  Hmmm....

You know, at this time it is not known who the anti-Christ's identity is.  But I show all of this to reveal the extreme capacity of man, and those who would consider themselves to be Christian, to fall into the hope and actually, worship, of a Man, instead of the true God.  Deception will be easy.

Just an observation....

 

 

 

Conclusion

We would like to preserve our nation and our freedoms.  But the United States is a nation and government that has turned it's back on God, including most of the "Christian" labeled churches.  God warned this was going to happen and that the Babylonian system would rise again; in a one world government and spirituality .  It is so in this country.  The current government is part of this world system and is trying hard to diminish the power of the country in order to melt into it.  But the NAR is also part of its ecumenical religious system.

Before the destruction of Israel, in their apostasy they had engaged themselves with Babylon.  The very evil Babylon was then used by God to severely judge Israel.  Israel tried to fight them, but without God; they would not succeed.  And, God told them this.  He told them not to try to fight Babylon because they would lose.  Jeremiah tried unsuccessfully to warn them.  It was God's plan for them to lose because he had a different plan.  But not all the people of Israel went along with what the leaders of Israel had done to bring them into their apostasy and accused Jeremiah of siding with Babylon (Jeremiah 37)

So, we see in Ezekiel 9 that after warning a defiant Israel, God sent some angels to destroy Israel.  But God told them to hold off until one particular angel could mark the foreheads of those who lamented at Israel's apostate condition and were not part of their system.  After this angel marked the foreheads of the true believers, God pulled out of the temple, and Babylon came and destroyed Jerusalem.  Though God used Babylon as his servant, he also destroyed it because they destroyed his people.

 Today, God has to tell His own people to come out of Babylonn it so they don't have to participate in the plagues and destruction this system and world will soon experience.  John said,

And I heard another voice from heaven saying, “Come out of her, my people, lest you share in her sins, and lest you receive of her plagues. For her sins have reached to heaven, and God has remembered her iniquities. Render to her just as she rendered to you, and repay her double according to her works; in the cup which she has mixed, mix double for her. 

In the measure that she glorified herself and lived luxuriously, in the same measure give her torment and sorrow; for she says in her heart, ‘I sit as queen, and am no widow, and will not see sorrow.’ Therefore her plagues will come in one day—death and mourning and famine. And she will be utterly burned with fire, for strong is the Lord God who judges her."  Revelation 18:4-8

Stay away from all of this NAR ideology and its baits of "experience" and "patriotism" which has led to the worship of man and into the soon coming realm of the signs and wonders attracting anti-Christ.

 

A Message To Those Who Don’t Know God and His Salvation

If you are not a believer, but you just might think that there is something to what you have read here, you may want to learn more.  God does not want anyone to perish eternally, nor to even go through the Tribulation which is seven years of Hell on Earth.  Here is a place to start to learn about the salvation that God has for you.  

The ABCs of Salvation

Some people think a personal relationship with God is something only theologians can comprehend. Actually, God’s plan of salvation is simple enough for everyone to understand. Here are the ABCs of salvation.

Admit

Admit to God that you are a sinner. All persons need salvation. Each of us has a problem the Bible calls sin. Sin is a refusal to acknowledge God’s authority over our lives. Everyone who does not live a life of perfect obedience to the Lord is guilty of sin. “For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God” (Rom. 3:23). Since none of us is perfect, all of us are sinners (Rom. 3:10-18).The result of sin is spiritual death (Rom. 6:23). Spiritual death means eternal separation from God. By God’s perfect standard we are guilty of sin and therefore subject to the punishment for sin, which is separation from God. Admitting that you are a sinner and separated from God is the first step of repentance, which is turning from sin and self and turning toward God.

Believe

Believe in Jesus Christ as God’s Son and receive Jesus’ gift of forgiveness from sin. God loves each of us. God offers us salvation. Although we have done nothing to deserve His love and salvation, God wants to save us. In the death of Jesus on the cross, God provided salvation for all who would repent of their sins and believe in Jesus. “For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life” (John 3:16).

Confess

Confess your faith in Jesus Christ as Savior and Lord to others. After you have received Jesus Christ into your life, share your decision with another person. Tell your pastor or a Christian friend about your decision.  If you do not go to church or have a pastor, ask God to lead you to a church that teaches truth and the gospel.  Following Christ’s example, ask for baptism by immersion in your church as a public expression of your faith. “If you confess with your mouth, ‘Jesus is Lord,’ and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. For it is with your heart that you believe and are justified, and it is with your mouth that you confess and are saved” (Rom. 10:9-10).

Then take the time to learn from, and of God.  Study the Bible.  Get a New King James, New American Standard, or a King James version to begin your study.  The first two are easier reading.  The King James has more word study materials with it but the old language may be a little harder to read.

THE TIME IS SHORT!